Reply to: cheap IT labor in UK

[DodgyAgent]

Sneaky bastards. This is the IT equivalent of 'dumping' in the manufactured goods trade. Effectively raping our countries IT industry. Already sold our car industry et al to the Chinese and Indians. Now the tarts are letting them take our knowledge industries. Time something was done about it. We've been screwed enough

At least ATSCo are making some noise. What about the PCG. They should organise a truck load of old PC's to be dumped outside parliament to symbolise the demise of another industry.

So, what do you lot think?

You could begin by exposing the companies that employ people on this basis

[BrilloPad]

Sneaky bastards. This is the IT equivalent of 'dumping' in the manufactured goods trade. Effectively raping our countries IT industry. Already sold our car industry et al to the Chinese and Indians. Now the tarts are letting them take our knowledge industries. Time something was done about it. We've been screwed enough

At least ATSCo are making some noise. What about the PCG. They should organise a truck load of old PC's to be dumped outside parliament to symbolise the demise of another industry.

So, what do you lot think?

Having tried very hard to arrange a revolution in another area, I think we should just stop whining and break out the vaseline.

[Diver]

Glad I'm not the only pedant on here!!!

[KathyWoolfe]

The final e is dropped when you add the suffix ment to a word. Two examples are judge + ment = judgment and acknowledge + ment = acknowledgment.

However, there are some exceptions. For example: encourage + ment = encouragement, achieve + ment = achievement, and enhance + ment = enhancement.

Exercises

1. judge + ment =

2. achieve + ment =

3. acknowledge + ment =

4. enchance + ment =

5. encourage + ment =


For more information on suffixes, check out pages 102-106 in "Scholastic Guides Checking Your Grammar" by Marvin Terban.

HTH

Glad I'm not the only pedant on here!!!

[Churchill]

Yep...I have one sat in front of me from India, and one next to me!

Their rates are probably crap, but £1 is equal to their 120 Rupees! So even £20 an hour means 19,200 Rupees a month! People in India with highly skilled jobs earn that in just over 3 years!

I think we are doomed!

I think they're crap!

[AZZIK]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...17/cnit117.xml

Yep...I have one sat in front of me from India, and one next to me!

Their rates are probably crap, but £1 is equal to their 120 Rupees! So even £20 an hour means 19,200 Rupees a month! People in India with highly skilled jobs earn that in just over 3 years!

I think we are doomed!

[Diver]

Maybe with a few more polite foreign imported IT contractors, this will be a nicer forum.

Isn't that right AtW

[AtW]

Stupid Google search.

Clever
SKA

Ok, I admit - I found that word by searching

[MrRobin]

You know what, I take it back. I think there are far more words that keep the 'e' when adding the -ment suffix than dropping the e. My humble apologies.

Stupid Google search.

[AtW]

Well done AtW, that's an improvement

Ok, I'll let you win - just finished my work day and can't be arsed of thinking hard to find more of those words, but don't take this as a complete abandonnement of my argument

[MrRobin]

Well done AtW, that's an improvement

[Peoplesoft bloke]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...17/cnit117.xml

labour

[AtW]

However, there are some exceptions.

atonement

Your turn.

[beaker]

Knowledge industry can be outsourced easier than manufacturing.

The very same guy who gets work permit visa to work here would not have the same cost base as you if that person remains in their native country, India or otherwise. This means their price would be even lower, in effect if they are here then the playing field is more level than otherwise.

What should be addressed is that money paid to these people have some minimum industry level average to prevent sweat shops from successful operation, I think right now you need to have salary of around £40k to get visa without problem.

IMO its not so much the individual visa holders that are the problem. As ATW mentioned, they already need to be earning decent money to get a visa. It is the foreign companies that can charge 25% of the amount of UK companies and still turn a decent profit. But that's globalisation folks, and a still strong UK pound...

[MrRobin]

Hmm, arguement with 'e' seems much more logical...

The final e is dropped when you add the suffix ment to a word. Two examples are judge + ment = judgment and acknowledge + ment = acknowledgment.

However, there are some exceptions. For example: encourage + ment = encouragement, achieve + ment = achievement, and enhance + ment = enhancement.

Exercises

1. judge + ment =

2. achieve + ment =

3. acknowledge + ment =

4. enchance + ment =

5. encourage + ment =


For more information on suffixes, check out pages 102-106 in "Scholastic Guides Checking Your Grammar" by Marvin Terban.

HTH