Reply to: Missing Shannon Matthews Is Found Alive

[ratewhore]

There an attractive bunch, I like the women on the left who has tucked her belly into her tracksuit bottoms, mmm so se*y

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...shannon714.xml

Either way Im glad she has been found, we wont have to worry about them being on benefits much longer with the paper paying her for story and films that is sure to follow.

Quality pic. Get in with the tinnys!!!

[BrilloPad]

Interesting social commentary here. Questioning whether Shannon Matthews is any better off now she has been found?

"Whatever the truth, there is little doubt the family was chaotic. Shannon’s mother, with seven children from five or even six different fathers – choose which paper to believe – cared for four of them aged between 11 and 2. The others lived with their natural fathers. "

Now that is quite amazing. Looks like the mother only looked after the ones the natural father did not want.

[Bumfluff]

There an attractive bunch, I like the women on the left who has tucked her belly into her tracksuit bottoms, mmm so se*y

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...shannon714.xml

Either way Im glad she has been found, we wont have to worry about them being on benefits much longer with the paper paying her for story and films that is sure to follow.

[ratewhore]

Interesting social commentary here. Questioning whether Shannon Matthews is any better off now she has been found?

[BrilloPad]

It would be except if a child is being beaten as they have "the devil in them" leaving them with scarring, the school reports it, there is medical evidence of the scars (both old and new) and the parent admits it you would expect something to be done. Nope not until the child runs away.

Victoria Climbie?

Like I said, anyone who is above the law will behave as they wish.

[SueEllen]

Quite right too. The state meddles in family life too much as it is.

It would be except if a child is being beaten as they have "the devil in them" leaving them with scarring, the school reports it, there is medical evidence of the scars (both old and new) and the parent admits it you would expect something to be done. Nope not until the child runs away.

[KathyWoolfe]

There is not something quite right about this lot, it will all come out in the wash. Quite what a family with no income is doing having seven kids when they are clearly not fit to look after them I’ll never know, are these people just really thick?

Considering the current benefit structure, the kids were indeed the income of the family as you get paid for children after the first one.

[SueEllen]

I think the more likely reason is that the SS do not like dealing with working class people. They complain more. They prefer to target the middle classes. they argue less.

SS don't like dealing with any child with parents. They prefer parentless refugees and asylum seekers as they don't have anyone who can argue with them over their policies, and the child is thankful they are in the UK.

[Marina]

Unfortunately due to the mess the care system is in children will not be separated from their parents except as a last resort.

Quite right too. The state meddles in family life too much as it is.

[EternalOptimist]

are these people just really thick?

if you pay people to sit at home and breed, they will sit at home and breed. GB et al truly believe that they are providing a 'safety net' to help people whilst they get back on their feet, get educated then go out and find work. It will take 100's of years of evidence to convince these people how foolish their ideas are.

[BrilloPad]

Unfortunately due to the mess the care system is in children will not be separated from their parents except as a last resort. So parents can get away doing quite horrific things to their children even though other organisations or agencies are involved because SS will not remove them. (And yes I know people quite well who work for the other "agencies")

I think the more likely reason is that the SS do not like dealing with working class people. They complain more. They prefer to target the middle classes. they argue less.

[SueEllen]

There is not something quite right about this lot, it will all come out in the wash. Quite what a family with no income is doing having seven kids when they are clearly not fit to look after them I’ll never know, are these people just really thick?

Unfortunately due to the mess the care system is in children will not be separated from their parents except as a last resort. So parents can get away doing quite horrific things to their children even though other organisations or agencies are involved because SS will not remove them. (And yes I know people quite well who work for the other "agencies")

[HRH]

There is not something quite right about this lot, it will all come out in the wash. Quite what a family with no income is doing having seven kids when they are clearly not fit to look after them I’ll never know, are these people just really thick?

[BrilloPad]

Having dealt with the SS before, they will ignore the 1989 children act. which states that the interests of the child shall be paramount. alas there is an unwritten law that the interests of the mpother coincide with that of the child.

I remember getting a formal complaint going against Wandsworth SS (the case worker was a lay magistrate and had told my ex she was going to get me). When I asked why they had not applied the law they said "because it is not easy".

Still, what does one expect from an organization which is above and beyond the law(the SS cannot be sued).

[Wilmslow]

Here is my perspective…. Albeit from an ‘insiders’ view.

From what I understand Shannon was not happy at home. Although she was abducted, she has no idea about this – appears that her ‘abductor’ gave her time and space which it sounds like she was not getting at home, hence, to Shannon things have improved over the last month.

We need to bear in mind that her adductor was a relative of her step dad, and, it sounds like things were not going well between her stepdad and Shannon and her mother.

Therefore, it is quite right that social services look into the family set-up before considering the right thing for Shannon.