Reply to: contractors rights

[sb5spa]

Employed?

Lets start with the basics. How long have you been "employed"?

[hyperD]

If you had two female applicants for a single job, you can only take one, all other things equal would you choose the one with bigger breasts?

We used this method on deciding the lead singer of my old band. It does work.

[zathras]

hi, i'm looking for some information on employment rights/grievances etc but from the perspective of working for a composite company. I'm not sure who i should take up the problems with, the agency i do the work for, and with whom i have the problem, or the company i'm employed by and who manage the composite companies?? Neither are being very helpful at the moment so i'm looking for guidance elsewhere. thanks

You have no employment rights, unless it can be demonstrated by an Employment Tribunal.

Far better to look at the contract you have with the composite and the agency to see if there is any breach.

Frankly, this kind of thing is why I don't like composite companies or brollies.

[insight14]

Bitter me?? No I have never had any bad experiences. I may be paranoid but I avoid employing:

1. Women of child bearing age who are married to a succesful breadwinner
2. Black people

I'd add East Enders and people from Essex (Essexers?) to the list. If they're not trying to sell you a dodgy TV or a horse, they're off on workers comp.

[Lucifer Box]

Bitter me?? No I have never had any bad experiences. I may be paranoid but I avoid employing:

1. Women of child bearing age who are married to a succesful breadwinner
2. Black people


I am neither racist nor sexist, I just do not want to expose myself to difficulties that may arise if ever I need to fire anyone. As far as contractors are concerned they can be whatever sex or colour they like, if they are good at their job that is good enough for me.

I may be stepping out of line here, but I am afraid that this is true of many employers.

Right, Dodgy. I bet some of your best friends are black, eh?

[Chico]

Dodgy

You said:

"Bitter me?? No I have never had any bad experiences. I may be paranoid but I avoid employing:

1. Women of child bearing age who are married to a succesful breadwinner
2. Black people


I am neither racist nor sexist,

You do not describe this as sexist or racist? I bet you are going to say you cannot be sexist because you are married and you cannot be racist because you have a black mate? Eh?

[WageSlave]

If you had two female applicants for a single job, you can only take one, all other things equal would you choose the one with bigger breasts?

Size isn't everything...shape and firmness play an important role.

[Alf W]

Pedant's Corner

You can't technically be "racist" against a "Muslim"

[AtW]

I am neither racist nor sexist

If you had two female applicants for a single job, you can only take one, all other things equal would you choose the one with bigger breasts?

[DodgyAgent]

Bitter

You're not speaking from bitter experience here are you, Dodgy?

Bitter me?? No I have never had any bad experiences. I may be paranoid but I avoid employing:

1. Women of child bearing age who are married to a succesful breadwinner
2. Black people


I am neither racist nor sexist, I just do not want to expose myself to difficulties that may arise if ever I need to fire anyone. As far as contractors are concerned they can be whatever sex or colour they like, if they are good at their job that is good enough for me.

I may be stepping out of line here, but I am afraid that this is true of many employers.

[Lucifer Box]

If you are a muslim you just need to write a solicitors letter with the word "racist" in it and you will get all the rights you want

You're not speaking from bitter experience here are you, Dodgy?

[DodgyAgent]

hi, i'm looking for some information on employment rights/grievances etc but from the perspective of working for a composite company. I'm not sure who i should take up the problems with, the agency i do the work for, and with whom i have the problem, or the company i'm employed by and who manage the composite companies?? Neither are being very helpful at the moment so i'm looking for guidance elsewhere. thanks

If you are a muslim you just need to write a solicitors letter with the word "racist" in it and you will get all the rights you want

[Lucifer Box]

hi again, firstly it will probably be in the nature of constructive dismissal, or just general unacceptable treatment. Depends what i can do. I am both an employee and shareholder in the composite company, but the overseeing company are blanking me about it. So far anyway. I guess if they take quite a few contractors from the agency they are hardly likely to step on them for me. thanks

Pete, firstly claims of constructive dismissal are extremely difficult to make stick, even in what appear to be cut and dried cases. Unless very large sums of money are at stake, most people don't bother. As you are being vague, all we have to go on is your description of "general unacceptable treatment". No tribunal would even give you a date for a hearing on that basis.

Secondly, and most importantly, you can only bring such claims against your employer and as that is your composite company (of which you are a joint owner) I'm guessing that is not your intention. To have any chance whatsoever, you will need to demonstrate that either the client or the agent has employment obligations towards you, and you probably don't want to do that either.

Just forget it and move on is my advice. Unless you can tell us what the exact problem and its details are, you won't get much more help here.

[The Lone Gunman]

hi again, firstly it will probably be in the nature of constructive dismissal, or just general unacceptable treatment. Depends what i can do. I am both an employee and shareholder in the composite company, but the overseeing company are blanking me about it. So far anyway. I guess if they take quite a few contractors from the agency they are hardly likely to step on them for me. thanks

Still not giving much away are you.
Your contract will give you some rights, both between you and the client and you and your employer. I assume you signed an opt out of the Behaviour of employment agencies act, if not you might have some claim for employee rights with the client and/or the agent.

Its difficult to advise on such slim detail.

[pete benson]

grievance

hi again, firstly it will probably be in the nature of constructive dismissal, or just general unacceptable treatment. Depends what i can do. I am both an employee and shareholder in the composite company, but the overseeing company are blanking me about it. So far anyway. I guess if they take quite a few contractors from the agency they are hardly likely to step on them for me. thanks