Anyone see this before???

[TheFaQQer]

No, LG you are exactly right.

What this agency are doing is operating a very pedantic view of the regs, but nevertheless they are technically correct.

They are probably hoping that by making staying opted in so akward for the con, that you will opt out.

tim

Assuming that you are right, it's an interesting thought that they believe that this is "a recent change in legislation".

If they explained what legislation they were referring to, then this would at least help point in the right direction.

[tim123]

I may be wrong (but I dont think so). WHeres Mal or (god forbid) Denny when you need em.


Read Section 14 and see if what was said to the OP matches.

No, LG you are exactly right.

What this agency are doing is operating a very pedantic view of the regs, but nevertheless they are technically correct.

They are probably hoping that by making staying opted in so akward for the con, that you will opt out.

tim

[Turion]

As long as they're not fishing for leads or any other underhand BS, just go along with it. Like it says on the box - if they find something suitable for you they will call. Then you can choose to agree/not agree with their terms. Quel est le problem?

[The Lone Gunman]

That's very different from "before we can process your registration and begin looking for work for you" though. I have no qualms about agreeing my terms for a specific role, but there's no way that I can agree terms for something that I don't know what it is, where it is, or for how long.

No its not. Go read the regs again.
It is not about discussing the nitty gritty for a specific job that they are required to do, it is about discussing the parameters for work they can find you.
What sort of roles you are looking for and how much you would require to do them.
If you say PM positions then they should not keep ringing with developer roles. If you say 40 an hour then they ..... you know this.

They are also required to have enough details of a contract to offer you before asking if you want to be put forward so all these agents on jobsites and on the phone stating they have no idea about the rate are either telling porkies or breaking the law.

I may be wrong (but I dont think so). WHeres Mal or (god forbid) Denny when you need em.


Read Section 14 and see if what was said to the OP matches.

[thunderlizard]

I imagine they want to decide whether or not your company wants to opt out of the Conduct of Employment Agencies and Employment Businesses Act, before they start introducing you to clients. That would be the right way to go about it.

They have described it very vaguely because agencies never ever understand the legislation that affects them. Their usually come up with rubbish like "You can sign this to opt out of IR35 until the 2 year rule kicks in".

[TheFaQQer]

Conduct of employment agents act states that they must agree terms with you before they put you forward.

That's very different from "before we can process your registration and begin looking for work for you" though. I have no qualms about agreeing my terms for a specific role, but there's no way that I can agree terms for something that I don't know what it is, where it is, or for how long.

Do any of you know what you are doing?

No.

[badger7579]

Meaning how much the rate is

[The Lone Gunman]

Conduct of employment agents act states that they must agree terms with you before they put you forward.

Do any of you know what you are doing?

[badger7579]

Yeah thought it was carp....

[snaw]

Wassat mean then, agree terms?

They talking about working hours, rates, substitution ??? Sounds like bollocks to me.

[TheFaQQer]

Rubbish.

Ring them and ask which legislation has recently changed, so that you can make sure that you are only dealing with agencies who conform to this new requirement.

[Wilmslow]

Had a response from an agency with the following...

Following a recent change in legislation we are now required by law to
agree terms before we can process your registration and begin looking
for work for you. Your details will be kept on file and in the event
that any future requirements received from a client that potentially
match your skills and experience we will contact you to obtain agreement
to those terms.

Is this bull or actual legislation

Sounds like bovine excrement to me.......

[badger7579]

Had a response from an agency with the following...

Following a recent change in legislation we are now required by law to
agree terms before we can process your registration and begin looking
for work for you. Your details will be kept on file and in the event
that any future requirements received from a client that potentially
match your skills and experience we will contact you to obtain agreement
to those terms.

Is this bull or actual legislation