Reply to: The truth about global warming

[shaunbhoy]

We've simply outgrown the planet.

Exactly. Global warming (man-made or not!) raises sea levels and vast areas of the planet disappear beneath the waves taking those that live there (mainly poor peasants types) with them. The population decreases and it is happy days again for a while. Survival of the fittest and all that. Tis Mother Nature's way of housekeeping. Only those with heightened guilt complexes get too frustrated and worried about this natural cycle. Get over it. I know I have.

[PAH]

And another thing....

Did anybody watch planet earth the other night?

We all know plants absorb CO2, so deforestation is not the best of things when CO2 levels are increasing.

So what do we do? Turn the forests into farmland for the these methane producing 4 legged beasties to satisfy our expanding waistlines.

We're all doomed I tell yah.

We've simply outgrown the planet. Yet because there's so much money in oil and armaments, the idea to find another one within reachable distance has yet to hit their tiny greedy minds.

[PAH]

Remember a number of summers ago the heat stroke that killed hundreds across Europe? Just the beginning.

Survival of the fittest has always been a favourite of mother nature.

I like how people currently alive think they're so important and that the world is going to hell in their own time. In a 100 years all they'll be is a page on Facebook, and that lot will be whinging how it used to rain all the time and now it only snows.

[scooterscot]

And another thing....

Did anybody watch planet earth the other night?

We all know plants absorb CO2, so deforestation is not the best of things when CO2 levels are increasing.

So what do we do? Turn the forests into farmland for the these methane producing 4 legged beasties to satisfy our expanding waistlines.

We're all doomed I tell yah.

[scooterscot]

This thread makes for good reading, I like reading about the concerns of radical climate change, what will happen if nothing is done. The poor earth.

Nothing will happen the earth will go on as it always has, long before we were here.

This is simply a question of survival, the planet has see conditions much worse, it will survive no problem.

Will this species outsmart evolution? Well I doubt it. We seem inherent on continuing to make our environment unsuitable for our survival, and there's little suggestion that will change.

Remember a number of summers ago the heat stroke that killed hundreds across Europe? Just the beginning.

What can I do? Well since the rest of you won't change, I'm growing a lung that can process CO2.

[PAH]

Or even how most dinosaurs got behind the wheels of their 4x4s!!

They used monster trucks.

[shaunbhoy]

Neither does anyone know how the number of fridge freezers in the world affect the global temperature.

Or even how most dinosaurs got behind the wheels of their 4x4s!!

[PAH]

Neither does anyone know how the number of fridge freezers in the world affect the global temperature.

And yet there is more correlation between above gound temperature and earth-quakes.

So the heat is escaping from underground!

I bet there are scientists out there that know for a fact one day a volcano eruption will be so big and long lasting that whole continents will at a stroke be drowned.

The universe is a violent place. The pacifists have their work cut out.

[threaded]

Not sure I understand how the movement of tectonic plates underground is affected by the temperature of the air above the ground.

Neither does anyone know how the number of fridge freezers in the world affect the global temperature.

And yet there is more correlation between above gound temperature and earth-quakes.

[shaunbhoy]

A 'believer'?

I tend to form my opinion on the basis of available evidence from credible sources.

Yes, the same credible sources that were predicting an Ice Age a mere 40 years ago. The same credible sources that cannot with any consistent degree of accuracy predict tomorrow's weather report.

You might be happy wallowing in the guilt they are nudging in your direction bogey, but don't jump to the conclusion that we are all so easily convinced.
I bet you even have an Al Gore bumper sticker!

[PAH]

Those types of houses are a proper pain to strengthen to withstand earthquakes, and with all this global warming we'll soon be having lots of them.

Not sure I understand how the movement of tectonic plates underground is affected by the temperature of the air above the ground.

[PAH]

As for the global warming, it was a nice fresh -4C when I went to work this morning...

Yeah global warming, climate change, or whatever they want to call it today is slowly taking over from terrorism as the next big thing to keep the numpties cowering at home.

Trying to do anything about global warming is the same as Labour trying to put an end to normal economic cycles. "The end of boom and bust".

[Joe Black]

The finite resources of the world cannot support western style consumption so, therefore, the little people in the West must consume less; this allows the little people in the East to consume 'a bit more'. Such large discrepancies that exist today will make a full globalisation impossible.

Full globalisation?, is that something like full employment?

Problem though with all this balancing out is the question of where the equilibrium is meant to be.

Given the millions, or billions, of people in the world who don't even have an old bicycle, let alone a 4x4, or most of the other things we take for granted, the west's lifestyle from some reports would be have to be very greatly reduced before this planet could provide some with even a quarter of what we've currently got.

As for the global warming, it was a nice fresh -4C when I went to work this morning...

[The Lone Gunman]

Bogey, your faith in science is touching.
I am constantly amazed by scientists.
Like only last month they were almost sure that in all probability a meteor will most likely not hit Mars.
It is a known size on a known path travelling at a known speed, as is Mars yet they are not sure if the two paths will collide. Obviously there are some serious variables involved here that I have missed.
Where as they are sure climate change is happening and it is man made. Obviously a much less complex calculation with less unknowns and unpredictable variables.

I do not subscribe wholey to the man made side of this argument, but I am fairly convinced climate change is happening.
What I am concerned about is Govt. commitment to doing something about it.
They say one thing and do another. The only thing certain is they will use the excuse to dip more money from my pocket.

How does Golden Brown resolve rising sea levels with building houses on flood planes? and other stuff.

[gingerjedi]

Whereas you, of course, have a gargantuan understanding of what we are trying to tackle, yes?

What are your qualifications in climatology, geology, physics, chemistry?

I'm just a layman in these matters myself, so tend to put my trust in papers that proper scientists publish rather than the Daily Mail letters column.

Nice one, so because I like science to be proven before it’s presented as fact I must gleam my knowledge from the Daily Mail letters column??

I am in no doubt that the climate is changing but whether we have caused it or not is IMO still open to debate, I just don’t see how taking my money and making me feel guilty about something that may or may not be caused by man is going to change anything.