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[Troll]

Is it still acceptable to promote/play/advertise/openly admit to liking/admiring the music of Michael Jackson

Yet not the music of Gary Glitter?

Both well know pedophiles, one acceptable (the one who abuses young boys). The other not.

Discuss or not etc.

... and what about Jonathan Kings "Everyone's Gone to the Moon"

[AtW]

How does that fit in with Michael Jackson?

You would do a good commissar comrade, NKVD would welcome you

[Bagpuss]

The more disgusting/pornographic/bestial/filthy the accusation, the more we're likely to beleive it!

Remember the one about Marc Almond, who, having collapsed on stage, had his stomach pumped of over a litre of semen? Or was it a pint, gallon?

Richard Gere - small rodent inserted 'round the back'?

Pet Shop Boys - Got there name from the fact they too were allegedly into 'rodent insertion'.

Urban legends - can't live without 'em....

How does that fit in with Michael Jackson?

[larry]

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The more disgusting/pornographic/bestial/filthy the accusation, the more we're likely to beleive it!

Remember the one about Marc Almond, who, having collapsed on stage, had his stomach pumped of over a litre of semen? Or was it a pint, gallon?

Richard Gere - small rodent inserted 'round the back'?

Pet Shop Boys - Got there name from the fact they too were allegedly into 'rodent insertion'.

Urban legends - can't live without 'em....

[newbee]

Why does Michael Jackson have cheese on his dick?

Kids will do anything for Dairylea

All the proof you ever need

that is disgusting joke, I bet you r not a parent

[AtW]

In his summing up the judge had "grave and serious concerns" about Jacksons behaviour.

Sure, and I agree with the judge - I shared this concern long before the judgement, which means parents should be either insane for letting their children stay with him OR parents wanted to make money from lawsuit using his reputation as "proof" of his guilt.

Circumstantial evidence might be okay if it is proven that the crime was committed - say if they found dead abused child on his property, but the matter of fact is that no abuse was ever proven - in fact I am inclined to think it actually never happened (rape of a child) because Jackson is just mentally not there, this does not mean he can be trusted with children, but it certainly means he is not guilty of crimes he was accused by people who were clearly motivated to make money out of him.

[EternalOptimist]

Gary glitter gave us one of the most entertaining examples of useful rhyming slang, what did jacko ever do to enhance and improve the English language ? nothing. I rest my case

[M_B]

Getting back to the original question - yes its ok to say you like his music if you do. That doesn't mean you support him sleeping with kids, its just means you like the music.

[Ardesco]

Why does Michael Jackson have cheese on his dick?

Kids will do anything for Dairylea

All the proof you ever need

[Bagpuss]

That's bulltulip.

In OJ Simpsons case it was clear that there were victims - dead people and he got off on technicality or jury made error, whatever it happens.

In Jackson's case the actual fact of abuse was not proven - what was proven is that the guy who claims to be abused and his mother were caught lieing in court and it became known they did something like this before for money. What jury in the world convict someone after primary witness was caught lieing like this? No chance.

I don't think Jackson abused children, perhaps he would have after a while, so it is certainly wise to ensure children are far away from that whacko, but matter of fact is that no abuse was ever proven so he is innocent. Looking at him I doubt he is capable of abuse actually - as I said I don't like him at all, he is a complete whacko and children should be kept far away from him, however he is not an abuser in my view and it certainly was not proven in court either.

In his summing up the judge had "grave and serious concerns" about Jacksons behaviour. You don't say that if someone is completely vindicated. The parents were on the make, as any would be who let there child into the care of a known or at least suspected paedophile. Jordan's parents were on the make. Strong circumstancial evidence exists, but without testiment their is no case. Money talks.

[AtW]

You are right he was found innocent. Innocent in the same way OJ Simpson was.

That's bulltulip.

In OJ Simpsons case it was clear that there were victims - dead people and he got off on technicality or jury made error, whatever it happens.

In Jackson's case the actual fact of abuse was not proven - what was proven is that the guy who claims to be abused and his mother were caught lieing in court and it became known they did something like this before for money. What jury in the world convict someone after primary witness was caught lieing like this? No chance.

I don't think Jackson abused children, perhaps he would have after a while, so it is certainly wise to ensure children are far away from that whacko, but matter of fact is that no abuse was ever proven so he is innocent. Looking at him I doubt he is capable of abuse actually - as I said I don't like him at all, he is a complete whacko and children should be kept far away from him, however he is not an abuser in my view and it certainly was not proven in court either.

[Bagpuss]

Was this proven in court? No? Then these are just words which I'd say likely to have been made up in order to get publicity.

Abuse of children by Jackson was not proven in court - it was proven that the case was based on a lie by the main witness clealy motivated by money.

I am not Jackson protector and I don't like him, however you can't just put people in jail for long time on such a crime just because you don't like him.

Evidence removed by the police from the house including hardcore porn in hidden children's play rooms, his semen found on children's toys. Not something you would expect to find? Remember these were pre pubescent children.

You are right he was found innocent. Innocent in the same way OJ Simpson was.

[AtW]

According to the police force which arrested him in the early 90s it is fact that his semen was on chidrens toys and that he masterbated in front of children staying at his house.

Was this proven in court? No? Then these are just words which I'd say likely to have been made up in order to get publicity.

Abuse of children by Jackson was not proven in court - it was proven that the case was based on a lie by the main witness clealy motivated by money.

I am not Jackson protector and I don't like him, however you can't just put people in jail for long time on such a crime just because you don't like him.

[Bagpuss]

Because Glitter's music was RUBBISH.

No worse than the tripe that M Jackson came out with

[Ruprect]

Because Glitter's music was RUBBISH.