Reply to: Why don't they simply charge per bin bag ?

[KathyWoolfe]

What you are forgetting is that the government is fudging the issue by saying...

Either pay extra to have your rubbish removed or pay the fine...

Now, let's introduce a little competition here...

Why not set up a company that collects household waste...

Churchill - In "I R brilliant!" mode...

There you go Churchill - your plan 'B' obviously!!!

[Churchill]

What you are forgetting is that the government is fudging the issue by saying...

Either pay extra to have your rubbish removed or pay the fine...

Now, let's introduce a little competition here...

Why not set up a company that collects household waste...

Churchill - In "I R brilliant!" mode...

[ratewhore]

I've just moved from Oxfordshire to Berkshire. In Oxfordshire the weekly recycling collection picks up most things apart from glass. I recycled probably about 90% of all my waste.

In Berkshire, they don't recycle cardboard and plastic. These are the two main materials for any packaging. The result is, I am now recycling about 20% of all my waste.

My point is, if the service is there, people WILL use it. Provide the service, don't penalise the public...

Fecking councils!!

[Cliphead]

In Ireland you have to buy a tag for your bin.... if there is no tag, the bin men won't pick it up...

True, but nobody ever bought tags from a legitimate source around where I was living. You just slipped the bin lorry driver 20 euros for a handful of tags. Of course it wasn't long before the service was being bemoaned as being uneconomical. That's not mentioning the tag thieves as well...

[NoddY]

In Ireland you have to buy a tag for your bin.... if there is no tag, the bin men won't pick it up...

And depending where you are, tags for bins containing recycled material are significantly cheaper than 'grey' bins for landfill.

Furthermore there are no property taxes in Ireland (like Council Tax) only property transaction taxes (stamp duty).

[cailin maith]

In Ireland you have to buy a tag for your bin.... if there is no tag, the bin men won't pick it up...

[The Lone Gunman]

We have chipped bins. The bin men are supposed (at some time in the near future) to be checking for the wrong rubbish inthe bin so they will be able to charge for it.
Problem is that you never get the same bin back. You have to go hunting down the street for te right one. Even though ours has 8" numbers on it!!!

[SueEllen]

In greenwich new scheme started. one bin for food waste, one bin recycling, orange bag for nappies, black bag for rest(polystyrene, clothes, dust, etc.)

I put clothes to charity anyway.

My issue is they have not been clear on what is recycled and what is black bag. So what is an envelope with a plastic window? light bulbs? aerosols?

Right from my local council who don't recycle from over half the properties in the area and impose a very strict regime for the other half.

You need to rip the plastic window of the envelope and recycle the paper but throw away the plastic.

Energy efficient light bulbs should be taken to the local tip sorry "Recycling Centre"

Aerosols go in the black bag.

[BrilloPad]

In greenwich new scheme started. one bin for food waste, one bin recycling, orange bag for nappies, black bag for rest(polystyrene, clothes, dust, etc.)

I put clothes to charity anyway.

My issue is they have not been clear on what is recycled and what is black bag. So what is an envelope with a plastic window? light bulbs? aerosols?

just took a look on web site - some guidelines are there. but does need more details.

I thought they collected nappies to recycle(using machine developed in Holland) but it is just so they are collected weekly...

[BrilloPad]

In greenwich new scheme started. one bin for food waste, one bin recycling, orange bag for nappies, black bag for rest(polystyrene, clothes, dust, etc.)

I put clothes to charity anyway.

My issue is they have not been clear on what is recycled and what is black bag. So what is an envelope with a plastic window? light bulbs? aerosols?

[KathyWoolfe]

Aren't coulcils already charging us for refuse collection through the council tax?

If this new charge is for recycling,then the individual is doing the recycling by separating the materials already,all the councils would have to do is put the different materials in separate storage areas to be dealt with appropriately. A lot of councils who are proposing to charge extra for this don't even have a recycling capability at the moment anyway. This is just an extra tax which will go to line the pockets of the fat cats in the town halls who think up even more elaborate schemes to separate the ordinary householder from his hard-earned income!

[threaded]

is it really worth all the effort, why don't they do what they do in Belgium,.

The scheme in Belgium is cheap, simple and effective. What are you thinking?

threaded in "some people, tch" mode

[rootsnall]

I'm a bit of a late convert to recycling. I just moved to an area with only one rubbish collection a fortnight with a recycling collection in the interim weeks. I thought it would be impossible to survive on one bin load a fortnight but we don't even fill it. The recycling pile is a lot bigger than I thought. Also the birds ( and squirrels ) are having a field day eating all the stuff that used to go in the bin.

[daviejones]

I think we are a bit behind several of our European neighbours in this respect. I recall there was a town in Germany (Bielefeld) that used to incinerate all of it's rubbish. The heat would then be used to heat water that was pumped out to the houses in the town. The incineration also produced electricity, which was then sold back to the "council, or Stadt" which in turn was used to fund the collection of the rubbish.....

How difficult can it be? I know they have said that incineration produces gases etc...

[TheFaQQer]

My conclusion is, the technology companies have sold the idea to those in charge who think it is wonderful and yippee the way to go.

Milan.

It'll all be linked into your ID card soon anyway - no ID card, no rubbish collection. But it's still a voluntary card