Reply to: Dog leash Goths 'hounded off bus'

[Troll]

Not being medically proficient in the slightest, I can't work out how oxygen starving can happen at birth. You survive well enough in the womb, and they don't cut the umbilical until you're outside, so at what point do they tizwas it up?

My mum says I was one of the first to be born using some sort of plunger/sucking device that no doubt has since been banned. Cheers NHS, I've seen better looking elephants.

Ventouse is the sucky thingie and usually used with forceps to get the little blighter out.

Birth is such a traumatic time for the baby my advice would be to go for elective caesarean every time - it's also the preferred method of delivery for female consultant paediatricians when they give birth to their own sprogs

HTH

[PAH]

Having watched the birth of my own child in hospital I have never understood why anyone would ever contemplate this unless they were living in the dark ages.

Maybe the ideal scenario for those wanting natural/home births is to hire a campervan and park it outside the A&E department. If things start to get messy, wheel her through the door. That way mother and baby would only be exposed to all those superbugs if absolutely necessary.

[PAH]

Hardly the dark ages old chap

I dunno. Seem to remember lots of power cuts in those days.

[oracleslave]

Well, it was 1973

Hardly the dark ages old chap

[Gonzo]

Having watched the birth of my own child in hospital I have never understood why anyone would ever contemplate this unless they were living in the dark ages.

Well, it was 1973

[oracleslave]

My parents decided that they would have a home birth for my first sister.

Having watched the birth of my own child in hospital I have never understood why anyone would ever contemplate this unless they were living in the dark ages.

[Gonzo]

Not being medically proficient in the slightest, I can't work out how oxygen starving can happen at birth. You survive well enough in the womb, and they don't cut the umbilical until you're outside, so at what point do they tizwas it up?

I am the first child in my family and I was born in hospital. My parents decided that they would have a home birth for my first sister.

When she was born, the umbilical cord was wrapped around her neck and my Dad had to rig up the oxygen so that she could breath
She has always been somewhat "highly strung"

Needless to say, my Mother went back to the hospital when my second sister was due.

[Alf W]

I would guess it is more likely that they are sticking two fingers up at the establishment because they have been taken so seriously more than being genuinely worried about not being able to lead each other around with a dog lead on a bus.

Hardly bringing down the government stuff is it? They end up looking stupid and having to walk home. We got rid of the Poll tax by rioting, previous generations fought wars and kids today get chucked off buses for pretending to be a dog. Pathetic!

Of course I may be wrong and they may just be twats

Think you've probably hit the nail on the head there.

[Bumfluff]

Not being medically proficient in the slightest, I can't work out how oxygen starving can happen at birth. You survive well enough in the womb, and they don't cut the umbilical until you're outside, so at what point do they tizwas it up?

My mum says I was one of the first to be born using some sort of plunger/sucking device that no doubt has since been banned. Cheers NHS, I've seen better looking elephants.

I'm a twin, when my mum gave birth to us my sister was the right way up and I was the wrong way up, she decided she wanted out first but there was a bit of a squeeze comming out and I suffered the brunt of it , Im told I was blue in colour when I was born .

[Ardesco]

Not being medically proficient in the slightest, I can't work out how oxygen starving can happen at birth. You survive well enough in the womb, and they don't cut the umbilical until you're outside, so at what point do they tizwas it up?

My mum says I was one of the first to be born using some sort of plunger/sucking device that no doubt has since been banned. Cheers NHS, I've seen better looking elephants.

Once the placenta detaches there is no blood going through the umbilical cord. If the baby hasn't got out before the placenta detaches it can be starved of oxygen (the birth canal can be quite restricting..)

[oracleslave]

Cheers NHS, I've seen better looking elephants.

[PAH]

Since I was born they thought there was a problem with me as I was starved of oxygen during the birth

Not being medically proficient in the slightest, I can't work out how oxygen starving can happen at birth. You survive well enough in the womb, and they don't cut the umbilical until you're outside, so at what point do they tizwas it up?

My mum says I was one of the first to be born using some sort of plunger/sucking device that no doubt has since been banned. Cheers NHS, I've seen better looking elephants.

[TheFaQQer]

Use Firefox - has a built in spell checker.

[Ardesco]

I would suggest that in this case these individuals were trying to force a reaction by useing the dog lead in public and got exactly what they were looking for.

I have known quite a few goths in my time and generally speaking most goths are very switched on and highly intelligent, they do like to shock and try and make you re-evaluate your opinions of the world though. I would suggest that this is what this couple were trying to do, get a reaction and see where it went (obviously quite a way).

I would guess it is more likely that they are sticking two fingers up at the establishment because they have been taken so seriously more than being genuinely worried about not being able to lead each other around with a dog lead on a bus.

Of course I may be wrong and they may just be twats

[Rymez2K]

ok I did amount to nothing Im a IT contractor

Still better than being a recruitment agent though!