Reply to: Rullion Agency.

[DodgyAgent]

a diatribe of self important whining is hardly what you might call a business offering

You mean EB employees

[EternalOptimist]

Hmmm - not sure what you were doing with your hands during all those 2nd "very"'s, but I've just disinfected my mouse to be on the safe side

I had some five berry juice at the weekend, I just wondered what a six very post would be like. like.

[SallyAnne]

SA I will be very, very honest with you, I have had very, very good experiences of working with these and I am very, very glad to help

Hmmm - not sure what you were doing with your hands during all those 2nd "very"'s, but I've just disinfected my mouse to be on the safe side

[oracleslave]

a diatribe of self important whining

Isn't that what most agents sound like on the phone?

[DodgyAgent]

I've already written an alternative model on countless occasions. It's just that you can't be arsed to read or remember what it was because it wounds your poor little ego.

Sad Tulip that you are!

a diatribe of self important whining is hardly what you might call a business offering

[EternalOptimist]

Does anyone have any GOOD experience of working with these?

SA I will be very, very honest with you, I have had very, very good experiences of working with these and I am very, very glad to help

[SallyAnne]

I've already written an alternative model on countless occasions. It's just that you can't be arsed to read or remember what it was because it wounds your poor little ego.

Sad Tulip that you are!

It's posts like these that make me think we should be friends Denny

[Denny]

At least someone here is bothering to think through an alternative model. here you are Denny an example of a logical thought out business idea that doesnt whine about anything.

I've already written an alternative model on countless occasions. It's just that you can't be arsed to read or remember what it was because it wounds your poor little ego.

Sad Tulip that you are!

[midtrac]

Cheers SallyAnne

If you've got any other questions about them feel free to give me a shout and I'll see if I can help out.

[SallyAnne]

Hiya,
First post here - worked with them last year. They weren't bad but did seem to take a while sending out contract documents.

Also had a minor issue where they kept messing up how many hours they were paying me on a few occasions - an email up the food chain sorted this out and everything was fine after.

Cheers.

Thanks Midtrac - and welcome

[DodgyAgent]

'morning all!

Dodgy, have you not thought about putting together a development team with your own project manager into your client sites?

I have thought about this on many occasions. The networking effort to pick up this sort of business is to be honest beyond me. With software companies, agencies, outsourcing companies banging on every door the sales effort would be very time consuming. In other words it is very hard work and my energies as you know are concentrated elsewhere in markets where there are fewer competitors.

If current business goes according to plan then I will have the funds and time to give it a go.

[Churchill]

At least someone here is bothering to think through an alternative model. here you are Denny an example of a logical thought out business idea that doesnt whine about anything.

'morning all!

Dodgy, have you not thought about putting together a development team with your own project manager into your client sites?

[DodgyAgent]

well...the "employment business" thing does puzzle me a little.
Because as I understand it, these agency regs only apply to businesses that decide that they should - ones that think of themselves as people-recruitment companies, and want to be allowed to "recruit staff", perm or temp.

We proper contractors want to avoid that for 1000 reasons. When these EB's want to place a limited company contractor, be that MySmallCo or EDS, they have to abide by all the EB regs: including e.g. check the passports of MySmallCo's/EDS's employees even though all responsibility to supply the actual people is MySmallCo's so there's no personal liability. And that's because they've chosen to be "EBs".

Why don't I come across any companies that do a similar job, but specialise in putting clients together with IT supplier companies, large or small? These companies wouldn't be Employment Businesses, they'd be "supplier sourcing agents" or whatever. They could keep their business model of "the client pays us and we pay the contractor". They wouldn't be able to place individual people, but in return they would be able to get their slice of bigger pies, e.g. a project on which MySmallCo would supply a team of a dozen people, or carry out a £10m fixed price development, or a licence-based contract, or whatever. They wouldn't be restricted to 15% of whatever 1-bum-on-a-seat can bill.

At least someone here is bothering to think through an alternative model. here you are Denny an example of a logical thought out business idea that doesnt whine about anything.

[midtrac]

Does anyone have any GOOD experience of working with these?

Hiya,
First post here - worked with them last year. They weren't bad but did seem to take a while sending out contract documents.

Also had a minor issue where they kept messing up how many hours they were paying me on a few occasions - an email up the food chain sorted this out and everything was fine after.

Cheers.

[thunderlizard]

Better model

well...the "employment business" thing does puzzle me a little.
Because as I understand it, these agency regs only apply to businesses that decide that they should - ones that think of themselves as people-recruitment companies, and want to be allowed to "recruit staff", perm or temp.

We proper contractors want to avoid that for 1000 reasons. When these EB's want to place a limited company contractor, be that MySmallCo or EDS, they have to abide by all the EB regs: including e.g. check the passports of MySmallCo's/EDS's employees even though all responsibility to supply the actual people is MySmallCo's so there's no personal liability. And that's because they've chosen to be "EBs".

Why don't I come across any companies that do a similar job, but specialise in putting clients together with IT supplier companies, large or small? These companies wouldn't be Employment Businesses, they'd be "supplier sourcing agents" or whatever. They could keep their business model of "the client pays us and we pay the contractor". They wouldn't be able to place individual people, but in return they would be able to get their slice of bigger pies, e.g. a project on which MySmallCo would supply a team of a dozen people, or carry out a £10m fixed price development, or a licence-based contract, or whatever. They wouldn't be restricted to 15% of whatever 1-bum-on-a-seat can bill.