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Agree - particularly regarding the Indy.Originally posted by SallyAnne View PostIt depends whether I want to read about the world, about London, about footballers shagging pop stars, or about how horrible immigrants are.
I think the least horrible is the independant...but even that has got on my nerves over the last year.
They seem to have lost their way.
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You can do sudoku? That must put you into the top 0.01% of all agents. Bet it's the easy one thoughOriginally posted by DodgyAgent View PostNo I never read those diaries, shame! I will look more closely at it in future. I like the reviews, the dishing of Ken Livingstone and I quite like their finance pages. Also the TV guide is very simple to follow. I can also do the back page Sudoku between work and hiome.
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No I never read those diaries, shame! I will look more closely at it in future. I like the reviews, the dishing of Ken Livingstone and I quite like their finance pages. Also the TV guide is very simple to follow. I can also do the back page Sudoku between work and hiome.Originally posted by WotNxt View PostI find their political pain quite entertaining actually. If they weren't so pompous about everything it would be better though.
Did you ever used to read that column about the single girl's lovelife by Laura Topham (Tup'em?). That was hilarious reading - it was screamingly obvious that no man was ever going to want a long term relationship with the poor girl until she sorted her f'ing head out.
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I find their political pain quite entertaining actually. If they weren't so pompous about everything it would be better though.Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostWhat I dont like is their column writers Cohen and Self who are a pair of Islington lefties. They now find themselves being wonderfully confronted by the failure of the political ideals of NL which they have so long supported.
Did you ever used to read that column about the single girl's lovelife by Laura Topham (Tup'em?). That was hilarious reading - it was screamingly obvious that no man was ever going to want a long term relationship with the poor girl until she sorted her f'ing head out.
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Daily Mail readers intelligent?Originally posted by Bagpuss View PostI resent the fact that even factual articles have to be spun to the politics of the proprietors. They can uncover corruption by having a go at all with the same vigour. This is why a newspaper like the Telegraph annoys me, excellent in places it spoils it with blatent propaganda, are the readers not intelligent enough to decide for themselves? Much the same can be said for the Daily Mail.
They would be much better of reading The Sun or The Mirror as at least the headlines have some relevance to the story below it.
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Well obviously if you like the Standard then you will agree with their political position, which presumably is quite neutral. Now neutral to me shows a blatant political bias (towards neutrality) of its own. I like the standard politically mainly because it challenges that arse Ken Livingstone. What I dont like is their column writers Cohen and Self who are a pair of Islington lefties. They now find themselves being wonderfully confronted by the failure of the political ideals of NL which they have so long supported.Originally posted by WotNxt View PostPolitical, yes.
But overall (as opposed to individual columnists) would you say it has a political bias and, if so, to which politics?
To me it seems to be fairly neutral politically but maybe that is just because my political views are closely matched to theirs. When I read any other newspaper now the political views that come through (either blatantly or "between the lines") just jar so badly.
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Political, yes.Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostThe evening standard is as political as any newspaper. There are few commentators as opinionated as Will Self (serving) for example.
But overall (as opposed to individual columnists) would you say it has a political bias and, if so, to which politics?
To me it seems to be fairly neutral politically but maybe that is just because my political views are closely matched to theirs. When I read any other newspaper now the political views that come through (either blatantly or "between the lines") just jar so badly.
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I was unshaven and my hair was long, he probably expected me to be on crackOriginally posted by DodgyAgent View PostI should think anyone would be nervous if they found you standing behind them.
Unless their name is Pete Tatchell
Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostThe impartial ones tend not to last long.
Apart from anything else why on earth should'nt newspapers express a view? They all have their own agendas but quite frequently they publish articles from people from opposite ends of the political spectrum. It is a vital necessity that journalists crawl around uncovering activities of grubby little politicians and then putting forward their points of view.
You dont have to agree with them or read them.
I resent the fact that even factual articles have to be spun to the politics of the proprietors. They can uncover corruption by having a go at all with the same vigour. This is why a newspaper like the Telegraph annoys me, excellent in places it spoils it with blatent propaganda, are the readers not intelligent enough to decide for themselves? Much the same can be said for the Daily Mail.Last edited by Bagpuss; 19 December 2007, 12:29.
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I should think anyone would be nervous if they found you standing behind them.Originally posted by Bagpuss View PostI was once stood behind Max Hastings at a parking meter he initially looked as miserable as one of his rants, then looked a little nervous, maybe he expected me to mug him.
Unless their name is Pete Tatchell
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I was once stood behind Max Hastings at a parking meter he initially looked as miserable as one of his rants, then looked a little nervous, maybe he expected me to mug him.
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The evening standard is as political as any newspaper. There are few commentators as opinionated as Will Self (serving) for example.Originally posted by WotNxt View PostWhy no Evening Standard in the list?
Can't stand the national papers as they are all too politically biased in their own way.
If I ever have the time then I read the Sunday Times but otherwise its just the ES while eating my lunch.
Always find it a bit annoying that the nationals report the same stories as the ES but a day later!
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The impartial ones tend not to last long.Originally posted by Bagpuss View PostI resent the fact that when you buy a newspaper in this country you have political propaganda rammed down your throat. All newspapers should report the news impartially, few if any do.
Apart from anything else why on earth should'nt newspapers express a view? They all have their own agendas but quite frequently they publish articles from people from opposite ends of the political spectrum. It is a vital necessity that journalists crawl around uncovering activities of grubby little politicians and then putting forward their points of view.
You dont have to agree with them or read them.
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Why no Evening Standard in the list?
Can't stand the national papers as they are all too politically biased in their own way.
If I ever have the time then I read the Sunday Times but otherwise its just the ES while eating my lunch.
Always find it a bit annoying that the nationals report the same stories as the ES but a day later!
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