Reply to: The new England manager

[sasguru]

I was reading something by Paul Ince recently (now a demi-god down my way, but we'll let that go), and he says the problem with England's squad is not the lack of quality, but the lack of leaders on the pitch.

Good sides have at least four in the team who can drag a side up and change a game. At Euro 96 he said we had Seaman, Pearce, Adams, Ince himself, Sherringham and Shearer, all strong personalities who knew what to do (except take penalties of course, but we'll let that go as well. )

Similar in 1998. He says now we only have Terry, and when he's missing, no-one. I'd add Gary Neville but he's been injured for ages and may never play for England again.

Yeah read that too. Element of truth in it - if you ignore Incey's self promotion. Also Beckenbauer says the the same thing - and that's a bloke I respect in footy.

[wendigo100]

"Is the pope a catholic? "

I dunno but I think he sh!ts in the woods though

I was reading something by Paul Ince recently (now a demi-god down my way, but we'll let that go), and he says the problem with England's squad is not the lack of quality, but the lack of leaders on the pitch.

Good sides have at least four in the team who can drag a side up and change a game. At Euro 96 he said we had Seaman, Pearce, Adams, Ince himself, Sherringham and Shearer, all strong personalities who knew what to do (except take penalties of course, but we'll let that go as well. )

Similar in 1998. He says now we only have Terry, and when he's missing, no-one. I'd add Gary Neville but he's been injured for ages and may never play for England again.

[BoredBloke]

"Is the pope a catholic? "

I dunno but I think he sh!ts in the woods though

[wendigo100]

Its gonna end in tears I tells ya! Tears!

Mailman

Is the pope a catholic?

[Mailman]

Its gonna end in tears I tells ya! Tears!

Mailman

[wendigo100]

Eh?!?! - name a better crosser of the ball in world football? And his passing is superb as well ...

Beckham WAS a great crosser. He hasn't been for a long time. Half of them don't get past the first defender.

The only reason he gets any success these days is because he takes every single dead-ball kick that we get in the opposition half, and so by law of averages...

Mind you, his cross for Crouch's goal against Croatia was superb.

[Dow Jones]

That will cheer you up!

A bit like investment bankers, some on £ 100k earn millions for their clients, others on £ 500k or more lose them - hand over fist!

[AtW]

I read that most of the Croatian players were earning in a year what most of the England players earn in a month - obviously motivation has got nothing to do with money.

Month? Try week - and I doubt they get £100k pa.

[Dow Jones]

Experts

Not a great expert on football (unlike some here), but I think the main problem that any England manager faces is how to motivate 15-20 multi-millionaires that can't be bothered to put a decent performance when they put the England shirt. Look at Gerrard, truly awful against Croatia on that Wednesday, played his best game despite being booed off at Newcastle the following Saturday.
I read that most of the Croatian players were earning in a year what most of the England players earn in a month - obviously motivation has got nothing to do with money.

[AtW]

Not quite sure how this helps your anti-beckham campaign ...

Every little helps

[snaw]

He dropped Beckham because he signed for LA Galaxy and Capello (Probably under the influence of Calderon) said that he didn't believe he would give his all for the club. He was playing well before he got dropped, didn't publicy whinge about it but got on with training and played well after he was re-instated, much to the delight of the clubs fans, the press and his team mates.

Not quite sure how this helps your anti-beckham campaign ...

[AtW]

Capello will teach Bechkam a lesson - he dropped him earlier this year until this guy stopped dressing in womens underwear and started training to actually earn his place in top 11. I doubt he will make it again though because he is playing in mickey mouse league right now

[snaw]

Yep - but you're talking about Beckham specifically. Any old monkey can roll out the England isn't playing like a team line, cause it's blatantly true. You're bagging Beckham and responding to a comment on his crossing/passing as being "What this means is that English Team is really in a truly aweful state of affairs."

[AtW]

Eh?!?! - name a better crosser of the ball in world football? And his passing is superb as well ...

Beckham is best crosser.
Terry is best defender.
Owen/etc are best strikers.

But together they don't play like a team and clearly they don't give 100%, most likely because they know if they get injured then their clubs won't give them bonus or something, in other words their loyalty is to their club.

England has got good players, but no team - that's because they don't play with each other, but against each other - few days training together before the match simply does not cut it - they are not a team.

Look at how Croatians were playing in the last match where they already won their place, would have England played as hard in their position? I think not. And this is exactly the problem.

[snaw]

Eh?!?! - name a better crosser of the ball in world football? And his passing is superb as well ...