Scrap the Human Rights Act

[wendigo100]

So what is the way to "restore what most British people regard as natural justice"?

Withdraw from all the treaties? Pull out of the EU? Ignore various laws like some countries do? Something else?

Zap them with ray guns.

Didn't do the Daleks any harm.

[scooterscot]

The way is clear, we know the differnce between right and wrong, we all deportation is right. Why will nothing be done? Because the sense of Britishness has long been beaten out of us... If only words were turned into action boy would this country be looked upon as the way forward...

[Joe Black]

Natural justice needed - not 'human rights'

So what is the way to "restore what most British people regard as natural justice"?

Withdraw from all the treaties? Pull out of the EU? Ignore various laws like some countries do? Something else?

[zathras]

A little.

But we had a Cabinet in those days, rather than Government from the Sofa.

But then again, Major privatised the railways, gawdelpus.

I can think of possibly three bits of legislation created during the Conservative Government which were bad.

1. Rail Privatisation, Seperating track owner and rolling stock was always going to leave problems of responsibility.

2. Dangerous Dogs Act

3. Broadcasting Act bringing in blind Auctions for licenses.

The list for New Labour is far larger

[Devlin]

If he gets "deported" to Italy, won't he eventually get an EU passport and return to the UK anyway?

[Joe Black]

International human rights are fine. The problem is the way the UK implemented them in our Act.

I'm not sure if that's quite true. The UK 1998 act does add to the ECHR (European Convention on Human Rights), but from what I have seen the additions are more on the basis of administration, what should be done if there is an incompatibility in law, should compensation be made, who should make judgement etc.

The main difference brought about by the act is that claims under the ECHR are dealt locally by UK judges, and as such it's much easier (and no doubt less costly) for a claimant to make a case here, rather than perhaps waiting 5 years for it to reach the court in Strasbourg.

Even if the act is scrapped, the same rights can be upheld by the European courts. Though of course it might be a disincentive for some the time/effort involved in making their case.

[wendigo100]

Situation Normal, then...

Yes, certainly recently.

Is it my imagination, or was new legislation much better thought-out before 1997?

[wendigo100]

International human rights are fine. The problem is the way the UK implemented them in our Act. We seem to have deliberately designed a crock of sh1t.

[lilelvis2000]

Gosh. Whilst I don't like criminal and scum abusing the act, none the less, having a single act is better than a hodgepodge of legislation and judicial decisions. It should just be fine tuned.

'Course the terrorism act wipes all the rights away anyway. The police could arrest someone for carrying a packet of chewing gum in a "threating manner" if they wanted.

[dotnetter]

I'm not much of a politics person, but I will definately be voting conservative, and I'm liking Cameron the more I hear. Well alot better than Blair and Brown anyway. But it's a lottery at the end of the day

[Mailman]

What interested me this morning was how those two morons who supported the human rights act were interviewed by the bbc on the news.

A few weeks ago the bbc interviewed some guy who got locked up for refusing to pay child support because he had his children for 50% of the time, his wife supported him and his children needed him YET the bbc went all jihadi on him.

YET this morning when interviewing these two pieces of scum they were so stand offish one would have thought the interviewers had fallen asleep!

Scrap the act or do what ever it is that France does because the human rights act does not work.

Actually people should understand that they have no rights, merely priviledges the Courts over time and the Government of the day have handed down.

The sooner people understand this the sooner we can move on.

Mailman

[King Cnvt]

And how will Sherry Bliar make £500K per year defending foreign criminals with tax payers money if they do that?

[scooterscot]

That's more like DC....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...awrence122.xml