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Previously on "Competing Offers and Behaviours of Agents"

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by Bagpuss
    Maybe it was the kind of organisation where nose picking is frowned upon!?
    It was'nt his nose he was picking

    do many clients volunteer feedback, Dodgy? i.e if they think a candidate is crap will they so, or just umm and arrr...?

    Nowadays we are held at arms length by companies, but if we know the line managers we do indeed get feedback probably on about 70%. We are never sure though whether the feedback is not made up to save getting involved in negotiation. Likewise agents are reluctant to give feedback on contractors as they do not wish to get drawn into a discussion on the merits of feedback with the contractor. The default from agents tend to be platitudes such as "job filled internally" rather than have to argue why another candidate got the job, or whether the candidate had the right personality. Most people try to let others down gently by not telling the truth or because they cant be arsed.

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  • Bagpuss
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    Maybe it was the kind of organisation where nose picking is frowned upon!?

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  • Burdock
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent
    Not many agents get feedback anyway. I once asked why my first ever interviewee failed to get a job at Abbey Life in Bournemouth. The client suggested that had I met the individual before I put him forward I would understand why. I never got any business out of Abbey after that and I have never been too keen to cut too far below the surface on requesting feedback since.
    do many clients volunteer feedback, Dodgy? i.e if they think a candidate is crap will they so, or just umm and arrr...?

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Not many agents get feedback anyway. I once asked why my first ever interviewee failed to get a job at Abbey Life in Bournemouth. The client suggested that had I met the individual before I put him forward I would understand why. I never got any business out of Abbey after that and I have never been too keen to cut too far below the surface on requesting feedback since.

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  • Bagpuss
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    Originally posted by KathyWoolfe
    If the agency won't give you feedback then approach the client directly. A good tip I was given was that no matter what job you apply for (permanenet or contract), phone them up the following day and thank them for their time. You can then make a good impression as to your committment to the job. If you haven't heard anything after about a week then phone the client up and ask if they have filled the position you interviewed for. If they have filled the position then you can ask why you weren't successful. If they refuse to answer then - only if you really want to know - phone the agency and ask if they have heard anything. If you still don't get a straight answer at least you know that you did everything that you could to get the information and you can move on to the next position instead of just waiting around for the phone to ring.

    Of course if the client or anything else doesn't meet your requirements then you can just forget everything and go straight for the next position.
    Not many clients (if any) will not give feedback for fear of a lawsuit.

    If you fail an interview, it's either because

    a/ someone was better
    b/ you are sh1t
    c/ a bird with big t1ts beat you to it
    Last edited by Bagpuss; 19 July 2007, 15:47.

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  • Bagpuss
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    Originally posted by rhubarb
    There's a hell of a lot of words there. Can someone summarise it perhaps ?
    i didn't understand it as I don't speak American

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  • XperTest
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    Sounds a bit bitter to me.. Are you sure contracting is for you OP?

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  • thunderlizard
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    bay**tch?

    Why do you need to censor the word "baywatch"? For sure it featured lots of lovely ladies in swimsuits, but we're all grown ups here.

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  • KathyWoolfe
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    Originally posted by rocktronAMP
    Hi

    2) AGENCIES NEVER DELIVER ENOUGH FEEDBACK - If you know you failed an interview then trying to getting feedback is sometimes like getting blood from a stone. Its the old paradox. With no feedback at all how in the hell can you improve yourself? Agencies do not have to time give feedback to all 100 candidates chasing the one bay**tch-ass job.
    If the agency won't give you feedback then approach the client directly. A good tip I was given was that no matter what job you apply for (permanenet or contract), phone them up the following day and thank them for their time. You can then make a good impression as to your committment to the job. If you haven't heard anything after about a week then phone the client up and ask if they have filled the position you interviewed for. If they have filled the position then you can ask why you weren't successful. If they refuse to answer then - only if you really want to know - phone the agency and ask if they have heard anything. If you still don't get a straight answer at least you know that you did everything that you could to get the information and you can move on to the next position instead of just waiting around for the phone to ring.

    Of course if the client or anything else doesn't meet your requirements then you can just forget everything and go straight for the next position.
    Last edited by KathyWoolfe; 19 July 2007, 14:45.

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  • Zippy
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    Originally posted by Orangutan
    anyone bothered to read all that ?
    I found myself wondering what the point of all that was - perhaps the originator can enlighten us? The words 'preaching' and 'choir' spring to mind (sorry DA).

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by andrew_neil_uk
    All agents are c**ts
    The difference is you have the ability to precis it into four words

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  • Zippy
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    Originally posted by andrew_neil_uk
    All agents are c**ts
    Ah, the executive summary. Good work mate

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  • Orangutan
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    anyone bothered to read all that ?

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  • Let-Me-In
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    Originally posted by andrew_neil_uk
    All agents are c**ts
    Here here..or hear hear!!!

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  • BrilloPad
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    Originally posted by rhubarb
    There's a hell of a lot of words there. Can someone summarise it perhaps ?
    All agents are c**ts

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