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The film 'Zulu' had a stirring moment when the garrison replied to the Zulu chants by singing 'Men of Harlech', it is much more likely to have been an English marching song.
Typical English, like "You're Gonna Get Your Feckin 'Eds Kicked In"
Well it started with the English getting a good kicking (at the Battle of Isalwanda) and then the Welsh gave 'em a good kicking back!
Aint history grand....
In fact, the county designation of the 24th Regiment in 1879 was the 2nd Warwickshires; they didn't change their title to the South Wales Borderers until 1st July 1881 - almost exactly two years after the war had ended. True, the Regimental Depot had been established at Brecon, in South Wales, in 1873, and from that point there was a small but significant increase in Welsh recruits in the ranks. In fact, however, recruits for the regiment - like every other battalion in the British army - were signed on at recruiting depots across the country, and the 24th consisted of men from England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. The most that can be said is that the Welsh connection had, by 1879, led to a rather higher proportion of Welshman in the ranks than was common elsewhere. Nevertheless, even the most optimistic search of the regimental roll can find only 19 men of B Company, 2/24th, with any sort of Welsh connection - out of a total strength of more than 80. Of course, there were detachments of numerous other units - including Colonial Volunteers - present at the battle, making a total garrison of about 145. So the Welsh contingent comprised no more than 15% of the total.
And no-one, I'm sorry to say, sang Men of Harlech; the regimental march in 1879 was The Warwickshire Lads."
Well it started with the English getting a good kicking (at the Battle of Isalwanda) and then the Welsh gave 'em a good kicking back!
Ah yes, another myth. The defenders at Rorkes drift were 2nd battalion the Warwickshires. They were not rebadged as the South Welsh Borderers untill many years later.
There were more scousers at Rorkes drift than there were welshmen. The film 'Zulu' had a stirring moment when the garrison replied to the Zulu chants by singing 'Men of Harlech', it is much more likely to have been an English marching song.
I had Dambusters on in the background yesterday, on Channel 4, and they'd managed to snip every occurrence of the word 'nigger', for Guy Gibson's dog and even the code word for "dam breached", which they changed to 'dinghy'.
What a pathetic joke. Don't the morons realize that it wasn't meant to be insulting even then, and if anything would have been a useful indication of how attitudes have changed over the years? But no, the deceitful and patronising gits prefer to try and rewrite history. Oddly enough a version shown a couple of years ago, on Sky I think or maybe even the BBC, included all the 'nigger'.
Edit: Now I see even this forum replaces the dread word ('nigger') by asterisks! FFS!!
Negro is as close as you can get to a technically correct term for, er, negros, but I'm told this is now considered offensive. I'm even beginning to hear that the word Black is offensive too, if used by white people.
So where do we go from here? What exactly isn't offensive?
On a lighter note, how long before we are not allowed to say Krauts, Frogs, Dagoes, Polacks, Belgian Bastards, Paddies or Jocks?
Negro is as close as you can get to a technically correct term for, er, negros [..]
I had Dambusters on in the background yesterday, on Channel 4, and they'd managed to snip every occurrence of the word 'nigger', for Guy Gibson's dog and even the code word for "dam breached", which they changed to 'dinghy'.
What a pathetic joke. Don't the morons realize that it wasn't meant to be insulting even then, and if anything would have been a useful indication of how attitudes have changed over the years? But no, the deceitful and patronising gits prefer to try and rewrite history. Oddly enough a version shown a couple of years ago, on Sky I think or maybe even the BBC, included all the 'nigger'.
Edit: Now I see even this forum replaces the dread word ('nigger') by asterisks! FFS!!
Negro is as close as you can get to a technically correct term for, er, negros, but I'm told this is now considered offensive. I'm even beginning to hear that the word Black is offensive too, if used by white people.
So where do we go from here? What exactly isn't offensive?
On a lighter note, how long before we are not allowed to say Krauts, Frogs, Dagoes, Polacks, Belgian Bastards, Paddies or Jocks?
I realy miss the Gollywog (am I allowed to write that on here?) on the robbinsons jam jar.
I've got a gollywog & a gollywog badge
Suppose if I took them out in public I'd get stoned to death.
You know what I mean
You get in trouble if you fix them to your front bumper
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