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Previously on "Credit card fraud effectively leaglised"

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  • Mailman
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    Actually, all knife attacks should be treatedf as mandatory attempted murder.

    Mailman

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  • King Cnvt
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    Originally posted by Numptycorner
    One wonders when burgulary will get similar treatment. It's usually a cautionable offence now. Surely if you have insurance it's victimless too?
    If you have private medical and some scum bag knifes you, is that victimless too?

    Lets face it, there is no crime now. Not since Blair took over.

    The perps are the victims now and need all the help tax payers can give them.

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  • AtW
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    Main problem is lack of prisons - this means scumbags are either released too quickly or not being send there at all. The issue is not with the judges but with the Govt - they don't build more prisons, yet want to look tough on crime - you can't have both.

    So those guys who get out of jail go for crimes that are easy to do and they are multiple enough to make it hard for police to chase everyone since they know full well judges will let them off with a fine.

    It should be like this: 3 criminal offences and it's 10 years in jail minimum. No early releases - this is done to keep criminals behave in jails, this sends wrong signal - if they don't behave in jail they should get EXTRA time in jail, not cut in time for good behavior, ffs, they are in prison for clearly not good behavior, if they can't behave in prison to serve their sentence, how can they be released back into the society?

    Some drugs should also be legalised - probably with Govt monopoly, at least this way drug addicts will be taken out of crime loop where they do bad things in order to feed their habit. Very long prison sentences for those drug addicts who won't play along with that.

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  • Sysman
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    Originally posted by Kyajae
    I think you're being very unfair to the police. The were absolutlely marvelous to Jemima
    I think I'd drop everything and rush to her aid if she called me for help

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  • Stan
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    I see cop cars ignore dangerous driving all the time. I rarely see any policemen otherwise, I think there should be a much higher police presence - where's the bobby on the beat.

    I've reported kids kicking a door in and they wouldn't come out. On the other hand once my dad called the police because of kids causing problems on his allotments and they came out and were nice so some are decent.

    Are they all working the lucrative night shifts herding drunks in town centres?

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  • Numptycorner
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    I had a rucksack stolen with some electrical gear, they didn't even want to know what the gear was. Excuse me for being thick, but if they apprehended the culprit with said gear, I could have had it back.

    A shop near me had a window put through, when the shop owner reviewed the cctv there was a cop car driving past as the yoof was smashing the window.

    What exactly do we pay council tax for?

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  • zathras
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    Well given that the Home Office made the forging of a Passport legal back in 2006 it is about time they did the same with Credit Card fraud.

    PS If you don't believe me try this link http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...C-new_19052006

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  • Ardesco
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    Originally posted by Kyajae
    I think you're being very unfair to the police. The were absolutlely marvelous to Jemima
    And there is the proof hey....

    I remember I got hit by a van in London a couple of years ago and the guy just put his foot down and refused to stop. I got his License Plate, Had a description of the driver and it was a company van with the company logo and phone number on the side.

    Reported it to the metropolitan police and they first told me to call back later as they were busy, and then told me to call my local police (Thames Valley at the time) as I wasn't a Londoner. Of course Thames Valley police didn't want to know because it happened in London. After 2 days of arguing with them to get the damn thing reported and a crime number I gave up. All they had to do was go round his house and arrest him, useless buggers....

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  • Numptycorner
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    One wonders when burgulary will get similar treatment. It's usually a cautionable offence now. Surely if you have insurance it's victimless too?

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  • Kyajae
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    Originally posted by Ardesco
    So what exactly do the police invstigate these days??

    They don't do card fraud.
    They wait until a fight is over before turning up
    They don't want to deal with the majority of RTA's (unless it is a serious one)
    They don't have motorway cops anymore, just stupid highways officers who can't stop the w*nker in the BMW and tell him that 1mm from the car in front at 90mph is not safe driving.

    Do they just try and fit up a few muslims now and again to justify the war on terror and shoot the odd bloke that looks at them in a funny way ?
    I think you're being very unfair to the police. The were absolutlely marvelous to Jemima

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  • threaded
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    Originally posted by Moose423956
    Don't you still have to report the crime to the police, so you get a crime number, so the bank can claim it against their insurance? I had to report it the one time it happened to me.
    That's the point! Because you're not allowed to report it any longer, there's no crime number, hence the crime statistics go down.

    Just think, in a few weeks time the UK will be free of card fraud once and for all!

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  • Mailman
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    Originally posted by Euro-commuter
    Well, who is the victim? If your card details are used fraudulently, you complain to the issuing bank, and the bank reimburses you, then you are not a victim. Hence you have no crime to report.
    You are relying on the banks not sleazing out of repaying the stolen cash are you? Did you not see that doco a few weeks ago where a number of people who had tens of thousands of pounds stolen had their "requests" declined from the banks because the banks determined they were at fault (even though clearly they were not at fault).

    Mailman

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  • Numptycorner
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    Originally posted by Moose423956
    Don't you still have to report the crime to the police, so you get a crime number, so the bank can claim it against their insurance? I had to report it the one time it happened to me.
    No, it is now up to the bank to decide whether to report it or not. Imagine some fraudster rips off 100 people from 1 bank. If the bank chooses to report him they could send in 1 crime report instead of 100 from the individuals concerned. It seems since April, no-one has comitted fraud in two of the biggest counties in the UK, when prior to April fraud was running at 1/2 million a day UK wide.

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  • Moose423956
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    Originally posted by Euro-commuter
    Well, who is the victim? If your card details are used fraudulently, you complain to the issuing bank, and the bank reimburses you, then you are not a victim. Hence you have no crime to report.
    Don't you still have to report the crime to the police, so you get a crime number, so the bank can claim it against their insurance? I had to report it the one time it happened to me.

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  • Ardesco
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    So what exactly do the police invstigate these days??

    They don't do card fraud.
    They wait until a fight is over before turning up
    They don't want to deal with the majority of RTA's (unless it is a serious one)
    They don't have motorway cops anymore, just stupid highways officers who can't stop the w*nker in the BMW and tell him that 1mm from the car in front at 90mph is not safe driving.

    Do they just try and fit up a few muslims now and again to justify the war on terror and shoot the odd bloke that looks at them in a funny way ?

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