Reply to: Legislation - Legislation - Legislation

[OwlHoot]

Ultimatelty there is no-one to vote for. UKIP lost the ground they were gaining when the Tories said "in Euorpe but not ruled by europe"

What hypocracy (the quote, not your post). Cameron is every bit as Europhiliac as Ted Heath ever was. UKIP is the only party it makes sense to vote for now, apart from possibly the BNP.

[Euro-commuter]

That joke won’t work for el Gordo, not with his interests.

Wave a nappy in front of him and show him a rocking horse and he’ll cream himself.

I think that's slander. I also think it has no basis, do you know better? If not, do you often randomly accuse people of being paedophiles just because you dislike them?

[M@H]

In England? I thought of them, but they sound more like old Labour than the Lib Dems.

but we do need something like a proper "English National Party" to take the approach of the Scots "is this actually good for Scotland" and apply it to England... that would certainly get rid of a lot of the cr*p that we have gained in Legislation for starters.

[M@H]

I'm hoping that Cameron's "New Labour" Conservatism is just a front to get the votes. It certainly started out like that, but he now seems to be getting carried away by it all.

It does smell badly of "old conservative" totally running out of ideas so trying to wheel out their own version of Tony B from 10 years ago.. sadly there is little "conservative" left in the tory party at the mo and they seem to be going down the route of sound bytes for minorty votes as per Nu Labia strategy.

Ultimatelty there is no-one to vote for. UKIP lost the ground they were gaining when the Tories said "in Euorpe but not ruled by europe" (a phrase they never really managed to quantify, and something unachievable if you read the EU legislation we have already signed up to) so the disenfranchised went back again. Lib Dem are basically bonkers and would like to be modern day Robin hoods robbing the rich to feed the poor, therefore removing any financially aspirational values from society, and as for the rest, well pretty much Loony bin or extremism.

Best of a bad lot.. who knows these days...

Cheers all,
Matt.

[wendigo100]

SNP will be a good alternative.

In England? I thought of them, but they sound more like old Labour than the Lib Dems.

[AlfredJPruffock]

Hague is only 10 so he is no use...
Lib Dems? Wishy washy

I agree...not much to choose from,,,,

SNP will be a good alternative.

[angusglover]

Right now, not a lot. It would have been different if Hague or Howard had won, but they didn't, so the opposition have to move towards what the majority public obviously wants.

Of course, there are still some real alternatives - Lib Dems (old Labour), BNP, Monster Ravers... but they all have as much chance of forming a government as Prescott has of doing something useful.

I'm hoping that Cameron's "New Labour" Conservatism is just a front to get the votes. It certainly started out like that, but he now seems to be getting carried away by it all.

Hague is only 10 so he is no use...
Lib Dems? Wishy washy

I agree...not much to choose from,,,,

[wendigo100]

So the alternatives are?

Right now, not a lot. It would have been different if Hague or Howard had won, but they didn't, so the opposition have to move towards what the majority public obviously wants.

Of course, there are still some real alternatives - Lib Dems (old Labour), BNP, Monster Ravers... but they all have as much chance of forming a government as Prescott has of doing something useful.

I'm hoping that Cameron's "New Labour" Conservatism is just a front to get the votes. It certainly started out like that, but he now seems to be getting carried away by it all.

[angusglover]

..and people still keep voting these c**ts back in.

Idiots.

So the alternatives are?

[Buffoon]

Tony Blair goes to doctor.

T: doctor doctor everytime i look in the mirror i get aroused.
D: You know why that is dont you Tony?
T: No, tell me
D: beacuse your a c***!

That joke won’t work for el Gordo, not with his interests.

Wave a nappy in front of him and show him a rocking horse and he’ll cream himself.

[Rantor]

'One Death is a tradgedy - a million deaths is a statistic'

Joseph Stalin

The number of enabling acts passed has been incredible ceding rights of entry to prviate property, interfering with communications etc to a vast range of public and private sector bodies.

Again all without parlimentary approval.

In a country without a clear constitution this is dangerous, dangerous stuff.

Even if you held a relatively benign view of Blairism, it should be apparent that the erosiion of rights and freedoms that took centuries to consolidate is well underway.

Britain was never as free as we sometimes imagine but the boundaries of the state were generally kept in check and challenged. Now the power of the state is growing and is is being challenged less and less.

I often wonder how so many people on here can reconcile their contempt for NL's statism and at the same time seem to demand extensions to the state that would make TB/GB look like full-on libertarians.

Anyway, the door is open for future politicos to do away with whatever bleeding-heart liberal, hand-wringing, PC-goen-mad rights that get in the way of protecting the silent majority/law-abiding/oppressed citizens.

[young veteran]

Tony Blair goes to doctor.

T: doctor doctor everytime i look in the mirror i get aroused.
D: You know why that is dont you Tony?
T: No, tell me
D: beacuse your a c***!

[gingerjedi]

Its not just the laws that make me mad, every day the government releases a new guideline, whenever I decide what’s good or bad for me I manage to keep it to myself and I assume most others do the same I think its called common sense?? But whenever this government spots something that is blindingly obvious to most people in the modern world they have to issue a sodding guideline...

[AlfredJPruffock]

If Stalin were still alive, he'd be proud of Blair

'One Death is a tradgedy - a million deaths is a statistic'

Joseph Stalin

[Kyajae]

The more Laws - the less Freedom

Chinese Proverb

ONE law every three hours has been created during Tony Blair's decade in power - most of it without the full scrutiny of parliament, research published today will reveal.

Over the past ten years, close to 30,000 new laws have been created - an average of 2,685 a year or more than seven a day.

But the Labour government has also increasingly used statutory instruments, rather than acts of parliament, to impose the new flood of legislation.

Some 98 per cent of new laws in the Blair decade were introduced by statutory instrument, allowing less time for debate in parliament than the tabling of a bill.

The revelations - made in a study by legal publisher Sweet & Maxwell - will underline accusations that the Labour government has been obsessed with burdening business with red tape, while weakening parliamentary democracy.

Most of the new laws were created in the areas of employment and criminal law. But the total - which is more than a fifth higher than under the previous ten years of Conservative rule - does not include new laws introduced to abide by European Union regulations.

Len Sealy, a Cambridge University professor of law who carried out the study, said that the EU regulations covered subjects from cross-border insolvency to the importing of bed linen.

"All became law here without our legislators having to lift a finger," he added.

Oliver Heald, the shadow Cabinet Office minister, said making a new law was enough to "grab a cheap headline", but was not the most effective way to run the country.

Meanwhile, a separate study by the Liberal Democrats found that at least 285 English schools are fingerprinting pupils without any government guidance.

The investigation found only a quarter of local education authorities had details about the use of fingerprinting and the government has no idea how many children have their information stored

If Stalin were still alive, he'd be proud of Blair