Reply to: Government rates.

[gingerjedi]

There was a guy on here who works on the HMRC help desk and he was happily ignoring IR35, my contract is with an agency and the government department had no say in what was in it I just provide the service they asked for.

As said before IR35 is a state of mind, just think and act as a company providing a service rather than an employee.

[threaded]

Just out of interest do government contracts all fall inside IR35?

As me learned colleague mentioned, they are commercial contracts. Yet, usually they are written to fall inside IR35.

[gingerjedi]

Just out of interest do government contracts all fall inside IR35?

No, why would they be any different from commercial contracts?

[2uk]

I think those days are gone

So is it a good idea to ask a client about the rate if you are suspecting the agent is making 50%?

[DodgyAgent]

Also some agents might be in a dodgy/corrupt agreement with clients. For example they both tell you a certain rate and it looks like the agent is making the regular 15%. However in reality the agent is making 5 times that.

I think those days are gone

[2uk]

Also some agents might be in a dodgy/corrupt agreement with clients. For example they both tell you a certain rate and it looks like the agent is making the regular 15%. However in reality the agent is making 5 times that.

[Numptycorner]

my government rates are almost 2k the robbing barstewards

[Jog On]

Just out of interest do government contracts all fall inside IR35?

[2uk]

mct , mcse s/m , ccna , ccsa/e , 8 years exp.

[threaded]

I am still too green to this game. Got another shocker today. The agent offered 160 /day , but continued the discussion after I requested 260. ..

Quote us your skill set and experience, and we'll put you right.

[2uk]

I am still too green to this game. Got another shocker today. The agent offered 160 /day , but continued the discussion after I requested 260. ..

[Barriebazg]

Seems to me you are being taken for a ride. I am currently on a Government contract and on more than that for less work!! The agent will be taking a nice cut of your money!!

[BoredBloke]

You also have to remember that these public sector bodies will sit and moan about a contractor getting £5 per day more than they think they should get but will not bat an eye at employing the services of a consultant @ £1000 per day.

[threaded]

I'm on the best rate I've ever had and I'm on a gov site the usual practice when bidding for gov work is actual cost x2... after all its only the tax payer footing the bill.

I would agree to the adding of a premium, as such work does your head in and really the client ought to pay if you can't watch and enjoy Coras when you get home.

[gingerjedi]

I'm on the best rate I've ever had and I'm on a gov site the usual practice when bidding for gov work is actual cost x2... after all its only the tax payer footing the bill.