Reply to: Permie Kicks Off!!

[Ivor Bigun]

If the face don't fit

Reckon its more about the permie not being one of the favoured few in the workplace.

One of the things I've learnt in work life, if you have to give out tulipty jobs, give it to those you don't like - Especially if it means extra work and no career advancement - its no loss anway.
So, if you're a permie reading this, leave - it means a nice job for an expensive contractor (he he)

[Euro-commuter]

I’m witnessing the mother of all rants this lunchtime. One of the permies is on a ‘spit & vinegar’ session having been informed that he’s about to take on part of the work done by a lass who’s about to go on 9 month’s maternity leave.

Since he is not being asked by the prospective mother to cover for her as a personal favour, but rather by the employer as part of his employment, the question is not whether he is being misogynist by not volunteering, but rather, whether the employer has failed to plan for this and is imposing on him unfairly to handle it.

Regardless of how it it came about, the employment situation is 1 of about 3 possibilities:
1. he is being asked to do more work and is being paid extra for it.
2. he is being asked to do her work instead of some work that he would otherwise have been doing.
3. he is being asked to do more work in the same time, without more pay.

Isn't it an easy one?
1 is ok if and only if he is ok with it: employee's choice
2 is ok: employer's choice
3 is abusive.

[TheRightStuff]

I'm planning on downgrading both cars, no skiing holidays etc etc just so she can stay at home if at all possible, I want to have a warm fuzzy feeling coming home to my family as the bread winner

when I'm going home in the evening I ring the wife to let her know when I'm 5 mins away. She stands at the window with our 5 month old girl. When she sees me her little legs start to kick like mad and she has this great big smile across her face when she sees me. Priceless. Having a child really changes everything and puts things into perspective. It's a long journey with ups and downs and your life will change. However, the ups are amazing and you forget about the lows. Easily a change for the better. Congratulations.


P.S wife not working either. Wouldn't want it any other way. However, that's only because we can afford too. Feel sorry for those mothers who have to leave their little ones and go to work.

[gingerjedi]

EH???

It was you??? you b******...

[shaunbhoy]

Right, shaunboy, so that's why you're so prickly about the subject. Pity you didn'r let on, we could have got real personal on the matter.

But hey ho. No hard feelings. Hope it all goes ok. Better you than me!! It'll be hand shandies for you for weeks after the birth!

EH???

[Kyajae]

I’m witnessing the mother of all rants this lunchtime. One of the permies is on a ‘spit & vinegar’ session having been informed that he’s about to take on part of the work done by a lass who’s about to go on 9 month’s maternity leave. (Apparently, this is her third sprog). It doesn’t help that he has to cover every time she wicks off from work when one of her other kids is ill. As you can guess, he hasn’t got kids.

Amusing to watch as it is, I’m inclined to agree. I acknowledge anyone’s right to breed but I don’t see why I’d have to put in the extra work because of someone else’s life-style decision. It’s bad enough letting parents into the pub to let their little urchins run around like it’s a ******* crèche. As you can guess, I don’t have kid either!

Right, shaunboy, so that's why you're so prickly about the subject. Pity you didn'r let on, we could have got real personal on the matter.

But hey ho. No hard feelings. Hope it all goes ok. Better you than me!! It'll be hand shandies for you for weeks after the birth!

[gingerjedi]

Don't come back too early though, or you'll find her in bed with the postman.

Knowing the post around here 6pm would be about right!

[sasguru]

I want to have a warm fuzzy feeling coming home to my family as the bread winner

Don't come back too early though, or you'll find her in bed with the postman.

[gingerjedi]

That's the crux of the matter. There are lots of families who'd much rather have one or other parent looking after their children themselves.

And many who'd rather not of course, but the point is, it's not a choice any more for most.

I'm planning on downgrading both cars, no skiing holidays etc etc just so she can stay at home if at all possible, I want to have a warm fuzzy feeling coming home to my family as the bread winner

[andy]

are we discussing children or bread making ?

[wendigo100]

due to modern financial pressures it is very hard for a family to survive on one wage these days

That's the crux of the matter. There are lots of families who'd much rather have one or other parent looking after their children themselves.

And many who'd rather not of course, but the point is, it's not a choice any more for most.

[gingerjedi]

Ahhhhh - congratulations daddy-to-be

Thanks, (your reply popped in before mine).

[SallyAnne]

I kind of expected the usual jibes...

Anywhere else and I would have got congratulations!

Ahem......

[gingerjedi]

I kind of expected the usual jibes...

Anywhere else and I would have got congratulations!

[SallyAnne]

Feck me, its called being civilised and that is how the human race has survived for so long, the vast majority will have kids and due to modern financial pressures it is very hard for a family to survive on one wage these days so it is only right that there are rules in place to allow for this... BTW The wife has a bun in the oven

Ahhhhh - congratulations daddy-to-be