The poor are better off under New Labour

[John Galt]

One reason they are better off is because they are getting more benefits. The worst thing you can do to someone is give them something for nothing. They resent it anyway

Spot on DA This is obvious to us humble contractors so why can't our illustrious leaders grasp this simple premise?

[gingerjedi]

Yes..... but there are the earnings based middle classes who should be penalised and the benefits based middle classes who can just sit back and reap the rewards of the earnings based middle class.

HTH.

Plus its easy to borrow your way out, it makes me laugh how many people are driving around in new cars bought on second mortgages purely to keep up with the Jones's, I don't know how it works but it seems to me that credit card companies (mostly American) are lending/making money by lending to the British public which the British High street is benefiting from at the moment but how long can it go on for? When rates go up and people can no longer afford it the tulip will hit the fan.

Have I just described an economical cycle?

[zathras]

Social mobility has actually reduced under New Labour. It is harder for the poor to work their way up in society. The benefits system in this country which has become increasingly means-tested (like the tax benefits system).

This has the effect of acting as a disincentive to actually move up the social ladder. This can be shown by the increasing numbers (something like 1 in 3 of the working population) who rely on Government handouts of some kind or other.

[DodgyAgent]

One reason they are better off is because they are getting more benefits. The worst thing you can do to someone is give them something for nothing. They resent it anyway

[rootsnall]

It's the "middle" class that has been penalised by this government, not the wealthiest.

I think the low paid are the ones who have been sold short the most under our caring sharing government. Without an open door immigration policy their wages would of shot up and we wouldn't need tax credits and other handouts to top them up. You'd be really moaning with nobody around to do the shi* jobs for shi* wages.

[threaded]

No, the poor are not better off under the New Lie. Their real incomes have dropped. It's all smoke and mirrors due to fiddling with the official inflation rate.

What gets me is so many of you believe they are actually receiving more money. They are not! The number on the notes may be bigger, but what it buys is less!

And don't get me started on the number of pensioners who would not be counted as poor if it was not for this New Lie government allowing firms to steal their pension funds, with a small percentage going into party coffers ...

[The Lone Gunman]

But surely everyone is middle class these days?

Yes..... but there are the earnings based middle classes who should be penalised and the benefits based middle classes who can just sit back and reap the rewards of the earnings based middle class.

HTH.

[gingerjedi]

It's the "middle" class that has been penalised by this government, not the wealthiest.

But surely everyone is middle class these days?

[Churchill]

It's the "middle" class that has been penalised by this government, not the wealthiest.

[gingerjedi]

Well I don't think the country is any better off as a whole so it stands to reason that the better off are now worse off... Funny enough I can't find that speech by TB.

[The Lone Gunman]

Blair is right, the worst off have seen their incomes increase faster than the best off.

Mostly because Tony "Robin Hood" Blair has robbed the rich to give to the poor.
The real Robin Hood robbed the rich because they were ripping off the poor in the first place. This Robin Hood is giving to the poor who are too feckless to go out and work for a living.

He is spinning the obvious again. The pillocks will buy it again.

[BoredBloke]

"He will quote a report saying saying the poorest 20% have seen their incomes increase faster than the wealthiest 20% since Labour came to power."

Probably as a percentage of their overall income. Given the choice of haveing a big percentage increase on a cr@p wage and a small increase on a big on, I know which one I'd rather have!

[Mervalous]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...569738,00.html

We all knew that, so the poor are better off and **** the people who try to earn good money!