How the f**k is this the UK's fault?

[Troll]

However Polish residents who have their cars registered in Poland are exempt from the rule. Many of their cars are right hand drive British cars registered in Poland, some are Polish Vans sign-written for their UK businesses. All of them seem to be flouting the rule that cars can only be imported for six months and afterwards they must be UK registered.

Hmmm probally get around the congestion charge & Gatso with that one too!... must be a market for importing right hand drive, Polish registered vehicles into the UK

[AtW]

Silent consent? The French police used to give away one-way tickets on the shuttle. Cheaper to French taxpayers than social security.

Then UK's Govt should sue them for the consequences of such actions: the bottom line is that these refugees were only using the tunnel because they knew they would have a very good chance of not being caught.

[threaded]

Used to be in Denmark that a foreign registration would cause whatever system, i.e. parking permits, tickets, speeding fines to ABEND. I guess it is still the case considering the numbers of Polish registered vehicles I've seen parked even more dangerously than that the Danes do. Which I must say I find quite an achievement in itself.

[Euro-commuter]

Yes but those immigrants were running away (with probably silent consent of the French) via the tunnel into the UK - whatever the French did it certainly did not justify lax security on the British part.

Silent consent? The French police used to give away one-way tickets on the shuttle. Cheaper to French taxpayers than social security.

[Paddy]

The UK should be claiming compo from all other EU states when refugees come in via the mainland.

FFS

I agree with that too. The main problem is a lack of will from the government. It is not the government who suffers or pays; it is the ordinary folk and their taxes. Unfortunately the legal profession do very well from the refugees using our taxes to fund their cases.

While we are in emigrant bashing mode (illegal and others) I also get peed off because in order to have a residents parking permit, I need to have my car logbook in the name and the address of that area,. However Polish residents who have their cars registered in Poland are exempt from the rule. Many of their cars are right hand drive British cars registered in Poland, some are Polish Vans sign-written for their UK businesses. All of them seem to be flouting the rule that cars can only be imported for six months and afterwards they must be UK registered.

[The Lone Gunman]

Yes I agree with you. But the UK does control half the border on the French side. It is sovereign British soil. It has been so since the beginning of the operation of the tunnel.

Yes, I know. That is besides the point. Euro Tunnel is claiming compensation for lost revenue and costs due to refugees causing security problems. The majority of it due to Sangatte. To get to Sangatte the fugees must have crossed into the EU somewhere else.
It is the somewhere else that should be paying this bill.

The UK should be claiming compo from all other EU states when refugees come in via the mainland.

FFS

[Paddy]

Paddy and TwaTTy: The point is that migrants are meant to be dealt with at their point of entry into the EU. The only way these chaps could be at Sangatte is if they have entered and crossed another EU country. Ergo: It can nto be the UK's fault.

No way can this be seen as a cost to the UK.
The simple fact is that Germany, France, Italy et all turn a blind eye to refugees expressing an interest in getting into the UK.

Yes I agree with you. But the UK does control half the border on the French side. It is sovereign British soil. It has been so since the beginning of the operation of the tunnel.

[ratewhore]

Yes but those immigrants were running away (with probably silent consent of the French) via the tunnel into the UK - whatever the French did it certainly did not justify lax security on the British part.

I'm sorry - I'm trying to find some logic in there somewhere...


...nope - I'll try SKA!

[AtW]

If they landed in France, the problem belongs to the french

Yes but those immigrants were running away (with probably silent consent of the French) via the tunnel into the UK - whatever the French did it certainly did not justify lax security on the British part.

[The Lone Gunman]

Paddy and TwaTTy: The point is that migrants are meant to be dealt with at their point of entry into the EU. The only way these chaps could be at Sangatte is if they have entered and crossed another EU country. Ergo: It can nto be the UK's fault.

No way can this be seen as a cost to the UK.
The simple fact is that Germany, France, Italy et all turn a blind eye to refugees expressing an interest in getting into the UK.

[ratewhore]

I think you both miss the point. The immigrants should not have been in Sangatte in the first place. If they landed in France, the problem belongs to the french, if they landed in Italy, the problem belongs to the Italians etc etc.

Sangatte existed because it suited the French to have the asylum seekers as close as possible to England to offload the problem.

Fecking big bunch of bollocks, thats what it is...

[Back In Business]

The UK has jurisdiction on part of the French side. The French have jurisdiction on part of the UK side

I think these were implemented in response to the Sangatte issue. It was still under French control at the time.

[Paddy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6396599.stm

Eurotunnel win compensation from both the French AND UK governments for the mess at Sangatte.

Bearing in mind the EU member state where an immigrant first lands is responsible for the management of that immigrant, why should the UK have to pay Eurotunnel for the inability of the continental member states to manage immigration?

Bah humbug!!!

If you have taken a car through the tunnel you would know...

The UK has jurisdiction on part of the French side. The French have jurisdiction on part of the UK side

[AtW]

Because EuroTunnel is a private company and it is not its job to enforce Govt rules - if unenforcement of such rules by respective Govts hits the private company then it is reasonable that said company should be compensated.

The UK pays because it's own enforcement on it's own end was poor which was the reason immigrants were using this route in the first place.

[ratewhore]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6396599.stm

Eurotunnel win compensation from both the French AND UK governments for the mess at Sangatte.

Bearing in mind the EU member state where an immigrant first lands is responsible for the management of that immigrant, why should the UK have to pay Eurotunnel for the inability of the continental member states to manage immigration?

Bah humbug!!!