Reply to: FT: Call to act on flood of foreign IT staff

[Buffoon]

We are saved - the Shadow Home Secretary is on the case

Yeah, right!

Got a letter from him this morning.

Dear Mr Buffoon,

Thank you for your e-mail.

The information you have provided us with is very useful and I am grateful to you for that. It will be passed on to the relevant member of the Home Affairs team.

Thank you for taking the time to write

So they are on the case. Expect progress soon.

In the meantime, I'm 'Outta 'ere'.

[Bright Spark]

What's 20% of Billions?

DA in "dont forget my cut" mode

(20% of Indian IT Staff Rate < 20% of EU IT Staff Rate) != Porshce 911

Dodgy I can see why you get that name.

[Diestl]

50p

[DodgyAgent]

What is needed is some MP to be convinced to put the complaint to the Parliamentary Ombudsman. This is clearly a case of maladministration. However, finding one will be a problem. No Labour MP will do it. The Conservative are highly unlikely to back it either as they would have been up to the same mischief given half a chance. A Lib Dem MP is a very outside possibility, but an Independent MP is really the only hope.

You can forget my MP, George Galloway though. Although he hates this government with a passion, he hates business people (i.e. us) even more. He actively discriminates against the indigenous members of his constituency in favour of the immigrant members.

Just suppose that we could win and that the government were made to pay compensation to contractors for loss of income over the lean years. It would come to billions!

What's 20% of Billions?

DA in "dont forget my cut" mode

[Buffoon]

What is needed is some MP to be convinced to put the complaint to the Parliamentary Ombudsman. This is clearly a case of maladministration. However, finding one will be a problem. No Labour MP will do it. The Conservative are highly unlikely to back it either as they would have been up to the same mischief given half a chance. A Lib Dem MP is a very outside possibility, but an Independent MP is really the only hope.

You can forget my MP, George Galloway though. Although he hates this government with a passion, he hates business people (i.e. us) even more. He actively discriminates against the indigenous members of his constituency in favour of the immigrant members.

Just suppose that we could win and that the government were made to pay compensation to contractors for loss of income over the lean years. It would come to billions!

[AlfredJPruffock]

question is when will the downturn be and are we near the top

When the King of the West
Decieved by Vanity and false Gods
Storms the Gates of Persia
Then the cataclysm as such the world has never been seen will begin
And after the battle - The End of Days
The King of the West nor the King of Persia - could not be found in the New or the Old Citys

[milanbenes]

i agree, these are good times too in my little neck of the woods but that's what makes me nervous how long can it continue

still as long as we spend less than we earn we should be ok

Milan.

[rootsnall]

that may be the last offical recession, but the last IT recession was just 5 years ago

you think the good times we are enjoying now will continue for the foreseeable future ?

Milan.

!?!?!?!?

FT and Torygraph are pretty gloomy in their comment sections but things seem pretty good at the moment in my little bit of the economy. We would of had another rates boom without the immigration the past few years. I think that the immigration effect will mean rates will come down fast and hard if Co's start cutting back. It'll happen some time but when is anybodys guess, thats when its time for Plan Z, sit at home and take it easy !

[milanbenes]

that may be the last offical recession, but the last IT recession was just 5 years ago

you think the good times we are enjoying now will continue for the foreseeable future ?

Milan.

[rootsnall]

'Next econominc downturn I think rates will plunge quite nastily !',

question is when will the downturn be and are we near the top

rates seem to be going higher and higher, how high can they go ?

and at the same time lots of permies are talking about becoming contractors

are we on the edge of a recession, it's been 5 years since the last so it's about time ?

Milan in 'we're all fecked' mode.

Last official recession was 91 ( ? or the year either side ).

[milanbenes]

'Next econominc downturn I think rates will plunge quite nastily !',

question is when will the downturn be and are we near the top

rates seem to be going higher and higher, how high can they go ?

and at the same time lots of permies are talking about becoming contractors

are we on the edge of a recession, it's been 5 years since the last so it's about time ?

Milan in 'we're all fecked' mode.

[rootsnall]

I don't think the toerags will reverse the immigration policy if they get in. I think the big outsourcers will be passing over big enough brown enevelopes to both parties, its now got too big of a concern to start kicking people out.

I wrote a letter to my MP in the 90s about opening up IT immigration and why it was a bad idea ie. no locals would be trained anymore ( didn't point out it would effect my stupidly high rate at the time ! ). Got a phone call from the home office and a decent letter from Margaret Hodge reassuring me it would not happen etc etc Within a year they opened the gates ! Next time I'm on the bench I'll try and work up some anger and write a follow up even though it'll go in the bin on arrival and I'll get a preprinted fob off.

Next econominc downturn I think rates will plunge quite nastily !

[DimPrawn]

Think of all them Indians over here. A Buy to let dream.

Boomed!

Vote Labour!!!

[milanbenes]

sorteeeeeed

replace 45 with 40

Milan.

[bobhope]

In a "glass-half-full" outlook, this could be a great opportunity. If you remember, due to Y2k, .com etc, every man and his dog decided to go into IT.

When I did CS in the early/mid 90s - it was in a class of 50 (half of whom shouldn't have really been there). come Y2k, that same class numbered hundreds.

Anyway, the old supply & demand did not look good for market rates. Fast forward till today, kids don't want to do it because of all the bad news coming out of the IT job market over the past few years, so downstream there will be little homegrown supply of IT people.

NL will eventually be kicked out, the work permit situation (could be) reversed. Lots of work, nobody to do it - you know what happens next to rates.

Bingo - retire by 45.