Reply to: Shock News: Judge makes common sense rulling

[Cowboy Bob]

read all previous posts thoroughly and you'll find that they are illuminated from an internal light source.

Yeah, the one in the picture is the second sign you come across. I couldn't find a picture of the illuminated one. The people caught speeding were claiming that the illumnated signs were illegal because they have that thin black band around them...

[threaded]

from 2003

So not only did the judge ignore the law, he ignored precedents. Outstanding.

What's that sig? Where are we going and why in a hand-basket ...

[Spacecadet]

Policemen beat speeding charges

Two police officers who successfully challenged speeding charges because road signs had an illegal black border should still face disciplinary action, a council chief said on Wednesday.

Cleveland Police dropped the case when the officers from the neighbouring North Yorkshire force were advised by a colleague that road signs warning drivers about speed cameras on the A171 near Guisborough were incorrect.

from 2003

[Ardesco]

One rule for one.....

[Paddy]

Policemen beat speeding charges

Two police officers who successfully challenged speeding charges because road signs had an illegal black border should still face disciplinary action, a council chief said on Wednesday.

Cleveland Police dropped the case when the officers from the neighbouring North Yorkshire force were advised by a colleague that road signs warning drivers about speed cameras on the A171 near Guisborough were incorrect.

[Spacecadet]

thanks

np

[Paddy]

read all previous posts thoroughly and you'll find that they are illuminated from an internal light source.

thanks

[Spacecadet]

Looking at the picture, the 20 mph signs seem to be illegal in another way. Tower Bridge Road is part of the A100, a major road. According the Road Traffic act any change in urban speed restrictions within a major road with streetlights must be accompanied by illuminated speed restriction signs. The signs in the picture are not illuminated.

read all previous posts thoroughly and you'll find that they are illuminated from an internal light source.

[Paddy]

The way to settle this is to see a picture of said signs. My Google fu is obviously lacking as I can find loads of pictures of Tower Bridge but none of the signs....

Edit - Ah ha, here we go - http://fivedayslondon.site.voila.fr/...dgeFromBus.jpg

Are those 20mph signs misleading to anyone here?

Looking at the picture, the 20 mph signs seem to be illegal in another way. Tower Bridge Road is part of the A100, a major road. According the Road Traffic act any change in urban speed restrictions within a major road with streetlights must be accompanied by illuminated speed restriction signs. The signs in the picture are not illuminated.

[Spacecadet]

For info, the ones at the other end are those that are illuminated internally, like this one - http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...h_sign_203.jpg - including the little "black band"

Agreed, the black band on that 60 limit sign is so distracting!

[Cowboy Bob]

For info, the ones at the other side are those that are illuminated internally, like this one - http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...h_sign_203.jpg - including the little "black band"

[Spacecadet]

Google isn't hard to use you know, try "london bridge traffic signs" and see what you get.

thats what i did
found one visitors site, most comments being FOR the speed limit
oh and heres a link
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/41941

[threaded]

nice of you to back that up with a link to either the google search or the London Visitor site

Google isn't hard to use you know, try "london bridge traffic signs" and see what you get.

[Cowboy Bob]

The way to settle this is to see a picture of said signs. My Google fu is obviously lacking as I can find loads of pictures of Tower Bridge but none of the signs....

Edit - Ah ha, here we go - http://fivedayslondon.site.voila.fr/...dgeFromBus.jpg

Are those 20mph signs misleading to anyone here?

[Spacecadet]

I have a counter example: did a quick google and at least one London visitor site warns that the signs are unclear.

nice of you to back that up with a link to either the google search or the London Visitor site