Reply to: Is there anything out there?....

[elsergiovolador]

Yeah but contracts are so easy it's barely any work for them. I get that they'll use the desirable contract roles to source candidates for perm jobs but it's not the same candidates they're putting forward for their contracts. If you say no to perm they probably won't even submit you for the contract role.

There is that group too. Bait and switch. They will tell you about this great contract they have and then after talks with the client they'll say they actually want perm and are happy to take you on.
Had those time wasters in the past but now are all blocked.

[jayn200]

Agencies will not show you any contract role if you give them even a hint that you might go perm as they have loads of those to fill and make more profit.

Yeah but contracts are so easy it's barely any work for them. I get that they'll use the desirable contract roles to source candidates for perm jobs but it's not the same candidates they're putting forward for their contracts. If you say no to perm they probably won't even submit you for the contract role.

[elsergiovolador]

Agencies will not show you any contract role if you give them even a hint that you might go perm as they have loads of those to fill and make more profit.

[hairymouse]

Crying is cathartic. No shame in that.

I'd rather die in a ditch.

I thought the same thing a few months back and made my own "Die in a ditch" decision. Nobody told me it would be so ditchy and die-y. Just between the two of us, dying in a ditch really sucks.

[elsergiovolador]

But I fear tomorrow you'll be crying....

Crying is cathartic. No shame in that.

I'd rather die in a ditch.

[ladymuck]

...confusion - will be my Epitath.

No use to complain when
Youre caught out in the rain
CatFood - again

Is that being catfood again or eating catfood again

[AlfredJPruffock]

But I fear tomorrow you'll be crying....

...confusion - will be my Epitath.

No use to complain when
Youre caught out in the rain
CatFood - again

[hairymouse]

Today recruiter called me and asked if I consider going perm. He said that most contractors now are going perm and contracting will not be possible next year so why not get job security today.

I tried not to laugh.

But I fear tomorrow you'll be crying....

[elsergiovolador]

Today recruiter called me and asked if I consider going perm. He said that most contractors now are going perm and contracting will not be possible next year so why not get job security today.

I tried not to laugh.

[Shackattack]

Absolutely agree with this. It's more of a when than an if.

Yes agree, flexibility has always put us at the forefront. However it doesn't serve the Tories. They will continue to hammer contractors, they will continue to dismantle services. We will become a low income low service economy. It's happening.

[LondonManc]

COVID-19 will change the way the world works.

The market will bounce but whether it bounces back or to somewhere else is the big unknown though. Lots of people pushing for far fewer flights in future - not unreasonable given the pollution levels. Moving to electric vehicles is inevitable too, but we won't get there in our lifetime, imho, purely because of legacy combustion engines round the world. We do, though, need to vastly reduce our reliance on fossil fuels, if only to reduce our requirement to tread carefully with countries like Saudi Arabia who should have been sanctioned long before now.

IR35 will change the way that businesses work.

If you're going to be WFH then potentially you could work from anywhere in the same or +/- 1 timezone and still be efficient, unless client stipulates that you must be onshore. You may find that the market shifts to two forms of contracting - traditional through limited company for specialist engagements, versus fixed term contracts where no umbrella company is needed (sorry Lucy!) thus reducing the overall engagement bill for bum-on-seat contractors. That's just my take on it, opinions will vary.

[jayn200]

What do you do? Some parts will bounce back and stay alive, some others might stay dead.

[ladymuck]

I firmly believe contractors are in a prime seat to help fuel the recovery. I am thinking there will be demand for the temporary workforce while we rebuild. But who knows...

Absolutely agree with this. It's more of a when than an if.

[ladymuck]

There will always be contract roles out there but it's just going to to take a good while for things to recover. Now is the time to keep in touch with all those contacts you've made over the years so when their businesses are ready to get going again, they will give you a call.

With ex-ClientCo laying off lots of people there is a good chance they will need to use consultants when they start to increase headcount again as they've lots hundreds of years of cumulative knowledge. Mercenary but I too have bills to pay...

[dx4100]

Is this the end of contracting?

I firmly believe contractors are in a prime seat to help fuel the recovery. I am thinking there will be demand for the temporary workforce while we rebuild. But who knows...