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[OwlHoot]

Give me strength.... So you think it's good that most other countries have not got what we have, a free to everyone health service no matter where you come from?

So you believe that a "paid for solution" is better. Perhaps it will suit you if you ever get ill in the UK to sod off abroad for treatment?

What an idiot you really are.

You're the idiot if you think the NHS is not a "paid for solution", one way or another.

And its chronic irremediable institutional waste means our taxes pay way more than needed for it!

[sasguru]

When did I ever say that? I'll give you a hint. I didn't.

And as for the rest of your witty insight...

You really are a thick fooker.

[Mordac]

This from the idiot who believes the NHS is the best system in Western Europe
Keep 'em coming, most amusing.

When did I ever say that? I'll give you a hint. I didn't.

And as for the rest of your witty insight...

[sasguru]

Careful mate, the resident cretin really won't like that. You can expect a spat dummy to be heading your way any time soon...

This from the idiot who believes the NHS is the best system in Western Europe
Keep 'em coming, most amusing.

[Mordac]

Give me strength.... So you think it's good that most other countries have not got what we have, a free to everyone health service no matter where you come from?

So you believe that a "paid for solution" is better. Perhaps it will suit you if you ever get ill in the UK to sod off abroad for treatment?

What an idiot you really are.

Careful mate, the resident cretin really won't like that. You can expect a spat dummy to be heading your way any time soon...

[sasguru]

Unless you're terminally stupid, I recommend you don't mention any of this out loud to anyone.

Ditto.

[sasguru]

Give me strength.... So you think it's good that most other countries have not got what we have, a free to everyone health service no matter where you come from?

So you believe that a "paid for solution" is better. Perhaps it will suit you if you ever get ill in the UK to sod off abroad for treatment?

What an idiot you really are.

Jeez. The stupidity of the British public in full, rampant display here.

[Old Greg]

Give me strength.... So you think it's good that most other countries have not got what we have, a free to everyone health service no matter where you come from?

So you believe that a "paid for solution" is better. Perhaps it will suit you if you ever get ill in the UK to sod off abroad for treatment?

What an idiot you really are.

I'm substantially more supportive of the NHS than SAS is, but it's not perfect and you're conflating two things: who provides healthcare services (the split between public, voluntary and private / co-operative) and who funds healthcare services (the split between tax payer, insurer and patient). Public provided healthcare does not have to be free at the point of delivery, and free at the point of delivery healthcare does not have to be publicly provided.

[Lost It]

Yet again your stupidity is on display.
The NHS can perfectly well be underfunded and waste money at the same time.
And organised as it is, in a top down Soviet style bureaucracy, it's almost certain to be inefficient.
Why don't I have crack? Because I'm not the politician in charge.
If I was I would look at modelling it on successful examples of private-public partnerships as they have in Western Europe, any of which are superior to the NHS.
But possibly that would be impossible given the low IQ of the majority of the Uk population, who would want to "save our NHS" even while its killing them.

UK still behind in cancer survival despite advances - NHS

Give me strength.... So you think it's good that most other countries have not got what we have, a free to everyone health service no matter where you come from?

So you believe that a "paid for solution" is better. Perhaps it will suit you if you ever get ill in the UK to sod off abroad for treatment?

What an idiot you really are.

[Lost It]

The PPE failure is one of NHS procurement's shortcomings (there are many), not HMG. Plus every country in the world is after the same supply.

That is exactly how the Government are going to show it as being everybody's problem except theirs. Then they will privatise a bit more of it.

When we then discover that all these firms in the UK couldn't find anyone within government to allow them to supply the hospitals in the UK with a bit of luck the Tory press will actually do us a favour and point that out.

There's loads of it being manufactured in the Uk right now and being sent abroad. Government's fault. No-one else.

[OwlHoot]

Ok, I'll bite. Is it Bitcoins?

Think paperclips - They have to hold all those patient notes together somehow!

[Mordac]

First rule of comedy - Know your audience.

Good point, well made...

[Zigenare]

Unless you're terminally stupid, I recommend you don't mention any of this out loud to anyone.

First rule of comedy - Know your audience.

[Mordac]

Yet again your stupidity is on display.
The NHS can perfectly well be underfunded and waste money at the same time.
And organised as it is, in a top down Soviet style bureaucracy, it's almost certain to be inefficient.
Why don't I have crack? Because I'm not the politician in charge.
If I was I would look at modelling it on successful examples of private-public partnerships as they have in Western Europe, any of which are superior to the NHS.
But possibly that would be impossible given the low IQ of the majority of the Uk population, who would want to "save our NHS" even while its killing them.

UK still behind in cancer survival despite advances - NHS

Unless you're terminally stupid, I recommend you don't mention any of this out loud to anyone.

[AtW]

Nope. He's not in a position to commit to anything. And Cabinet has better things to do than hold a meeting about "should we hold an enquiry at an unspecified date to see how we handled this".

Yeah, the Govt would only commit to having enough tests by specific date, enough PPE and many other things, but public inquiry into biggest crisis since WW2 - NO WAY.