Reply to: Footballers

[AtW]

Why expert governance over the ball placements is more profitable than say project management?

Artificial game limits (number of players on pitch), which results in scarcity of top talent supply.

[elsergiovolador]

Why expert governance over the ball placements is more profitable than say project management?

[AtW]

Coronavirus and sport: Chelsea's first-team squad will not take pay cut - BBC Sport

Tells you all really about them.

[LondonManc]

Number of footballers with depression symptoms doubles during shutdown | Football | The Guardian

Could be because they're not used to social distancing.....
Kyle Walker apologises for flouting coronavirus lockdown amid claims of 'sex party' and faces Man City investigation

[AtW]

Number of footballers with depression symptoms doubles during shutdown | Football | The Guardian

[LondonManc]

With your attitude he’d quickly become millionaire.

Good.

[AtW]

The owner has a net worth of $10billion - they've not got financial worries.

With your attitude he’d quickly become millionaire.

[LondonManc]

“ Arsenal’s senior players have rejected the terms of a 12.5 per cent pay cut over 12 months in response to the coronavirus crisis, despite the club throwing in some fresh incentives on new contracts in a bid to get them to agree.

Under the proposed terms that were put to the vote on Monday afternoon, the club said that any player who was offered and signed a new deal in the future would – as a matter of course – be awarded the deducted balance in addition to his new salary.”

Arsenal players have refused to take pay cut despite club's coronavirus financial worries

Pretty amazing their contracts don’t have obvious clause: no work - no money.

The owner has a net worth of $10billion - they've not got financial worries.

[sasguru]

“ Gary Lineker has also said it is unfair to single out high-earning athletes but expressed confidence that action was imminent, citing recent conversations with players.

“Why not call on all the wealthy to try and help if they possibly can rather than just pick on footballers?” Lineker said during an appearance on Andrew Marr’s BBC One programme. “Nobody seems to talk about the bankers, the CEOs, huge millionaires. Are they standing up? Are they being asked to stand up? We don’t know.”

Lineker was critical of top-flight clubs, including l Liverpool and Tottenham, who have furloughed non-playing staff using the safety net of the Government’s job retention scheme.”

Lineker wants it fair and he might get it - 60-70% tax for years, instead of few months of 30% cut (for footballers not doing any work too!)

Linker's right. How about useless hedge fund managers like Rees-Mogg and all other bankers who were publicly subbed by public money in 2008 stepping up?
Why pick on pro-footballers, who at least have some benefit in entertaining the masses?

[BrilloPad]

I have a great way to earn the government money! Pay may a trillion pouns a year and the tax intake on that will make the government minted...

[AtW]

“ Arsenal’s senior players have rejected the terms of a 12.5 per cent pay cut over 12 months in response to the coronavirus crisis, despite the club throwing in some fresh incentives on new contracts in a bid to get them to agree.

Under the proposed terms that were put to the vote on Monday afternoon, the club said that any player who was offered and signed a new deal in the future would – as a matter of course – be awarded the deducted balance in addition to his new salary.”

Arsenal players have refused to take pay cut despite club's coronavirus financial worries

Pretty amazing their contracts don’t have obvious clause: no work - no money.

[AtW]

They often don't pay when they have to. They get someone to change the rules for them.

Exactly - they pay to get rules changed or get slap on the wrist if they get caught

[LondonManc]

Those owners are far richer than most people because they don’t pay when they don’t have to, would be strange to expect otherwise

They often don't pay when they have to. They get someone to change the rules for them.

[AtW]

Yeh, I ascertained that as well, owners worried about lack of income from TV rights, advertising, stadium attendances and merchandising etc.

Most of these owners are far richer than most of the players, it's just the players are less influential and do not pay into political parties, so they are an easy target.

Those owners are far richer than most people because they don’t pay when they don’t have to, would be strange to expect otherwise

[MrMarkyMark]

Thing is, Mark, it's not the players that are the problem. Any single one of them who has played for at least five years in the Premier League could never draw a wage again and still live a life beyond most of our means. It's the owners and the Premier League that are the problem. Jamie Carragher's criticised his own club and quite rightly. It'll be interesting to see how many Labour-supporting Liverpool fans, who usually blindly back their club through racism scandals, coach attacks and all sorts, back their owners and this decision.

Yeh, I ascertained that as well, owners worried about lack of income from TV rights, advertising, stadium attendances and merchandising etc.

Most of these owners are far richer than most of the players, it's just the players are less influential and do not pay into political parties, so they are an easy target.