Reply to: Alex Salmond to continue to host weekly RT programme

[original PM]

You don't seem to realise that a lot of those English voters heading north will be remainers looking to stay in the EU in an independent Scotland.

As well as all the EU nationals who voted No last time because they were told they would have to go home if Scotland was independent. Now they are being told by the home office they need to go home even if they've lived here and had families here. They are all Yes voters now.

That should be fun - those snowflakes will last approx 5 seconds in Glasgow town centre on a Saturday night.

And that's just because it's a bit cold.

[Batcher]

Aye, whatever.

It's not happening.

Tick. Tock.

[minestrone]

There has been a material change in circumstances since 2014. The Scottish government has a mandate, passed by the parliament, to hold another Indyref.

Aye, whatever.

It's not happening.

[Batcher]

But it only takes 1 to veto it.




So your core strategy is to legally sign up and agree to it, but not to implement it? Good luck with that!!




The Windrush generation. Shocking scandal agreed.

You specifically mentioned EU nationals though. When did Brussels annex the Caribbean, or will they wait to do that until they get their "Army" in place?

The UK won't be a member so won't have a veto

Yes, we can agree to join the Euro but not actually use it. I gave you the link to read.

Brexit: Deportations of EU citizens soar since referendum | The Independent

When Britain can deport EU citizens – according to the law

Immigration: EU citizens could be deported or refused entry back into the UK under new “secret” Home Office enforcement powers - IMD Solicitors LLP

[shaunbhoy]

Those old scare stories have been debunked many times now. Yes, we will have to leave the EU on 29th March but many of our European friends have said they will make it easy and back us to rejoin without any problem, including Germany and Ireland recently.

But it only takes 1 to veto it.

Joining the Euro is something you have to sign up for but you don't have to do it, or at least it isn't enforced:

So your core strategy is to legally sign up and agree to it, but not to implement it? Good luck with that!!

Here is an example of people living in the UK for decades and being deemed illegal and sent 'home'

‘I’ve been here for 50 years’: the scandal of the former Commonwealth citizens threatened with deportation | UK news | The Guardian

The Windrush generation. Shocking scandal agreed.

You specifically mentioned EU nationals though. When did Brussels annex the Caribbean, or will they wait to do that until they get their "Army" in place?

[Batcher]

And you don't seem to realise that, unless you hold this second referendum within the next 8 weeks, Scotland will also be out of the EU and will be required to apply to rejoin and accept the Euro and god only knows what else.



Are they now? Linky or is just more tartan propaganda?

Those old scare stories have been debunked many times now. Yes, we will have to leave the EU on 29th March but many of our European friends have said they will make it easy and back us to rejoin without any problem, including Germany and Ireland recently.

The biggest lie is that Spain would vote against us- debunked.

Spain says independent Scotland could join EU - The Local

Joining the Euro is something you have to sign up for but you don't have to do it, or at least it isn't enforced:

https://ec.europa.eu/info/business-e...in-and-when_en

The Treaty does not specify a particular timetable for joining the euro area, but leaves it to Member States to develop their own strategies for meeting the condition for euro adoption. Seven of the 13 Member States who joined the EU since 2004 have already joined the euro area, most recently Lithuania on 1 January 2015.

Therefore 6 have agreed to use the Euro but haven't done it.

Here is an example of people living in the UK for decades and being deemed illegal and sent 'home'

‘I’ve been here for 50 years’: the scandal of the former Commonwealth citizens threatened with deportation | UK news | The Guardian

[shaunbhoy]

At my last gig a few contractors were taking the urine out of him for his easily-lead brexit ‘analyses’

Unlikely to have been me. I have never worked in the waste sorting industry.

Do folk up in Scotland care what you think Shaun?

Who knows? You certainly seem to though, but I don't suppose we can use you as any sort of benchmark, blessed as you are with the intellect of a soup spoon.

[shaunbhoy]

You don't seem to realise that a lot of those English voters heading north will be remainers looking to stay in the EU in an independent Scotland.

And you don't seem to realise that, unless you hold this second referendum within the next 8 weeks, Scotland will also be out of the EU and will be required to apply to rejoin and accept the Euro and god only knows what else.

As well as all the EU nationals who voted No last time because they were told they would have to go home if Scotland was independent. Now they are being told by the home office they need to go home even if they've lived here and had families here. They are all Yes voters now.

Are they now? Linky or is just more tartan propaganda?

[contractorinatractor]

Back to jibes that a six year old would be too proud to come out with and some smilies. well done. Thick c**t.

See, the thing about democracy is that things change over time. In 1997 labour won by a landslide. Did Tories then just say '**** it, time to forget the whole torying thing now cause the majority voted against it'.

In fact, why am I wasting my time even typing this, you're a ******* retard, so there's no 'discussion' to be had.

I'll put it in terms simple enough for you to understand...... Jellyhead

Shaun is a moron, don’t worry pal. At my last gig a few contractors were taking the urine out of him for his easily-lead brexit ‘analyses’; seems much of the population down that way seem to think passing off DailyMail rhetoric counts as self-derived opinion from their massive brains.

Circumstances change and few are bigger than brexit. This warrants another referendum, perhaps within the next couple of years.

Do folk up in Scotland care what you think Shaun? No, because you’re likely an overweight loser who spends such an incredible volume of time posting here that you clearly lack the social skills to fit well into society otherwise. Enjoy your pathetic lifestyle and incoherent rants; as you grow old you’ll just be “that tit down the road” who thinks he knows it all yet is sitting (alone, obviously) quashing cider whilst shouting at his 4K tv.

[AtW]

Might move to Scotland if they allow offsetting squirrel food against tax liability

[Batcher]

True, so how about we revisit this "once in a generation" decision in another 20 years or so?

That ought to give you time to put all your wee toys back into your cot and allow a whole new phalanx of voters to come of age that haven't had Braveheart on constant repeat!!

Course it also means another couple of decades of people heading north from England and elsewhere to vote in favour of preserving the Union again too.

Now you need to calm down TM..........getting a wee bit hot under the collar there...breathe!!

You don't seem to realise that a lot of those English voters heading north will be remainers looking to stay in the EU in an independent Scotland.

As well as all the EU nationals who voted No last time because they were told they would have to go home if Scotland was independent. Now they are being told by the home office they need to go home even if they've lived here and had families here. They are all Yes voters now.

[Batcher]

What part of the Indyref "didn't work" for you, other than the clear result that most of your fellow natives felt that remaining part of the United Kingdom was the best option?

You can believe all you like that a self-governed Scotland is better. Fact is you are in the minority.

Maybe referendums just aren't your thing?

Have you ever just considered sticking to crofting or buckie-fuelled mutton-molesting? That seems to be more in line with your "talents".

There has been a material change in circumstances since 2014. The Scottish government has a mandate, passed by the parliament, to hold another Indyref.

Almost 60% would vote for independence if we are forced out of the EU with no deal

Scots would rather leave the UK than accept a 'No Deal' Brexit | Metro News

Tick, Tock.

[TestMangler]

I'm a jellyhead

FTFY

[shaunbhoy]

See, the thing about democracy is that things change over time.

True, so how about we revisit this "once in a generation" decision in another 20 years or so?

That ought to give you time to put all your wee toys back into your cot and allow a whole new phalanx of voters to come of age that haven't had Braveheart on constant repeat!!

Course it also means another couple of decades of people heading north from England and elsewhere to vote in favour of preserving the Union again too.

Now you need to calm down TM..........getting a wee bit hot under the collar there...breathe!!

[TestMangler]

What part of the Indyref "didn't work" for you, other than the clear result that most of your fellow natives felt that remaining part of the United Kingdom was the best option?

You can believe all you like that a self-governed Scotland is better. Fact is you are in the minority.

Maybe referendums just aren't your thing?

Have you ever just considered sticking to crofting or buckie-fuelled mutton-molesting? That seems to be more in line with your "talents".

Back to jibes that a six year old would be too proud to come out with and some smilies. well done. Thick c**t.

See, the thing about democracy is that things change over time. In 1997 labour won by a landslide. Did Tories then just say '**** it, time to forget the whole torying thing now cause the majority voted against it'.

In fact, why am I wasting my time even typing this, you're a ******* retard, so there's no 'discussion' to be had.

I'll put it in terms simple enough for you to understand...... Jellyhead