Reply to: Global warming survey

[DimPrawn]

Here an angry 4x4 owner hits back at the BBC for using 4x4 in all the headlines instead of high emissions vehicle, and the BBC response is there is not enough space to put high emissions vehicle, so all bad cars are going to be called 4x4 on the bulletins.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newswatch/ukfs...00/5324718.stm

But we have had a tendency to lump high emission vehicles together under the banner of 4x4s - it's a kind of shorthand. Phil mentioned specifically the on-screen caption used on News 24. Now space is at a premium on these captions and '4x4' is three characters while 'high emission vehicle' just won't fit.

And we pay a license fee for this?

[Bagpuss]

Which will live forever...

You'll never live it down...

Can you give me 3 references?

[Bagpuss]

pusbag, the recruitment consultant. (snigger)

It was a joke!

[Dundeegeorge]

I bow to your superior scientific background

The university of South California

What next, perhaps the opinion of Southampton womens' guild?

pusbag, the recruitment consultant. (snigger)

[shaunbhoy]

The university of South California

What next, perhaps the opinion of Southampton womens' guild?

There are always sceptical cranks swimming against the tide Baggy. You are not alone I am sure in refusing to face up to scientific explanations. I bet you get nervous about mobile phone masts too, don't you?
Its alright, you are amongst friends now.

[wendigo100]

The university of South California

What next, perhaps the opinion of Southampton womens' guild?

They advocate another tablespoon of sugar.

[Bagpuss]

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in...lobal-warming/

The university of South California

What next, perhaps the opinion of Southampton womens' guild?

[shaunbhoy]

Was this due to dirty selfish middle class peasants?

Yeah, them and all those big hay-guzzling 4-leg drive vehicles of theirs!!

[DimPrawn]

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in...lobal-warming/

But Tony and Gordon disagree? Now I'm confused.

Maybe the politicians have their own "green" agenda?

[Dundeegeorge]

No comment

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in...lobal-warming/

[lukemg]

Ok, the 'carbon age' is 50 years from extinction (more or less) i.e. oil, gas and coal are running out. From that point and presumably leading up to then, energy usage will be more or less carbon neutral - wind, nuclear, bio-fuel, solar funnel etc etc. So the question is - will it be too late by then, will we all be doomed etc or will the earth kick back the other way ?
In reality, unfettered expansion of humanity, with no natural limiting of numbers having any real effect will finish the planet off on it's own. This will result in war over the scraps of energy production left on the planet (already happening). Strangely the apopcalyptic vision of a deadly disease wiping out huge swathes of the population of the earth might turn out to be the thing that saves the planet rather than destroys it.
All in all, I can't do jack to prevent any of this happening, so it goes on my - 'can't do anything about that, don't worry about it' list and I will carry on regardless.
HTH

[sasguru]

Well, we'll never really know.

In a few hundred years, after 100's of trillions of pounds are wasted globally to address a cause that has no effect, we'll enter a cooling period that we have no control over, and wonder why all these idiots were using a 50 year temp change that is no different from ones seen in the past.

Regardless, people like Gordon will raise the money to fund wars, and people like you will be falling over-themselves to pay it.

I see you're more willing to stick to your prejudices than bother to find out the facts. You are Chico and I claim my 5 polluted crustaceans.

[DimPrawn]

Well, we'll never really know.

In a few hundred years, after 100's of trillions of pounds are wasted globally to address a cause that has no effect, we'll enter a cooling period that we have no control over, and wonder why all these idiots were using a 50 year temp change that is no different from ones seen in the past.

Regardless, people like Gordon will raise the money to fund wars, and people like you will be falling over-themselves to pay it.

[sasguru]

Well, just because I'm willing to keep an open mind does not mean I think there isn't an manipulation of the situation by the government, however I don't check the treasury's stance before making my mind up on issues. We have the ability through technology to reduce carbon emmisions and lead a fairly unchanged lifestyle, is it not worthwile to make some effort, just in case?

I expect to be branded a tree hugging socialist now.

A fair point well made. I agree.

[Bagpuss]

Funny how all logic goes out of the window when something becomes political.

Well, just because I'm willing to keep an open mind does not mean I think there isn't an manipulation of the situation by the government, however I don't check the treasury's stance before making my mind up on issues. We have the ability through technology to reduce carbon emmisions and lead a fairly unchanged lifestyle, is it not worthwile to make some effort, just in case?

I expect to be branded a tree hugging socialist now.