Reply to: Where our tax goes :(

[Lucy]

No, it was because of the invention of the fax machine.

HTH

That's an interesting thought.

[threaded]

FFS the cold war ended because of nuclear weapons, go and learn some history.

No, it was because of the invention of the fax machine.

HTH

[BA to the Stars]

<cough>

You were stuck on the Enterprise, old chap... it was the War Criminal who was beamed down with me...

Ummm - I wondered who would be the first to spot my deliberate mistake

BATTS in Captain Mainwaring mode

[Marina]

FFS the cold war ended because of nuclear weapons, go and learn some history. ..

Nukes were no doubt a major factor, or at least the expense of maintaining the nuclear arsenal and conventional forces.

But I was watching an interesting Discovery Channel program on the 1986 Chernobyl disaster last night, which claimed that the need for the Russians to come clean was an important catalyst for glasnost and the ending of the Cold War, along with the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989. So even a radioactive cloud has a silver lining

[Lucy]

I will not tolerate this invented version of history.

Gulag for you, Lucy

Not unlike Norfolk.

[bogeyman]

The cold war started because post WW2 Stalin decided it was a good idea to force his evil empire upon Asia and Europe, ie the SU started rolling out it's communist states years before it tested it's nukes.

I will not tolerate this invented version of history.

Gulag for you, Lucy

[BA to the Stars]

And that loaded polystyrene stuff is proving problematic... there's nothing worse than a bomb that doesn't go pop.

Polystyrene stuff eh - reminds of the rocks on this planet the Captain and I beamed down to, there was this giant alien lizard lifeform and, well I suppose you know the rest

[Moscow Mule]

1) What is wrong with our current nuclear arsenal ?

They'll start leaking in a few years...

[Lucy]

Um, that is an oldie.

I know I was looking for something else - it feels like a million years ago.

[Xenophon]

I can hardly believe we had this argument.

Um, that is an oldie.

[Lucy]

I can hardly believe we had this argument.

[Lucy]

So why did Jimmy Carter agree the SALT treaties with the soviet Union?

The SALT treaties were unverifiable. The SU did not reduce it's nuclear weapons effort at all during that period.

Carter, unlike Reagan, thought you could negotiate with an evil empire. Reagan decided tactically the US could beat them in an Arms Race (and did) !!!

[Lucy]

Actually the cold war started, middled and ended becuase of nukes. If there were no nukes it would have been a hot war.

Go learn some tactics

The cold war started because post WW2 Stalin decided it was a good idea to force his evil empire upon Asia and Europe, ie the SU started rolling out it's communist states years before it tested it's nukes.

Nuclear wepons by and large 'kept the peace' in the global sense (excluding proxy wars etc).

I do know tactics. ta.

[Sockpuppet]

FFS the cold war ended because of nuclear weapons, go and learn some history.

Do you really think it's a good idea to not maintain them when nutters like North Korea and Iran hold them ?

Actually the cold war started, middled and ended becuase of nukes. If there were no nukes it would have been a hot war.

Go learn some tactics

[wendigo100]

There was no Arms Race before Reagan and Thatcher.

I think you meant that there was no arms race AFTER Reagan and Thatcher.