Reply to: Minutes silence etiquette.

[SueEllen]

There was a proposed amendment to the Regs recently that would have made it compulsory for Landlords to ensure that existing property was fit to live in and had suitable fire provision (ie sprinklers) but our Parliament voted it down,

I wonder how many of those voting were / are landlords...

https://www.theguardian.com/housing-...private-rented

[Mordac]

Or it's virtue signalling at its worst.

Yes it's sad, but in a way it's disrespectful to pretend that a minute's silence in any way makes up for what happened. And as much as this was a terrible single event, people die all the time, many in a fire in Portugal yesterday. So who is deciding which people are worthy of a minute's silence and which people aren't?

Plus they're always a bit painfully awkward. Sometimes in football or whatever they do a minute's applause for someone who's died, and I think that is a much better idea; both practically and in terms of what it's trying to achieve.

But each to their own. If someone was wanting to observe the silence I wouldn't go and start talking to them or whatever, but equally you shouldn't complain about other people not choosing to take part. In fact I'd bet the majority don't.

Probably not, and as you say, each to their own. I do feel that in this case it is a large number of people who have, by the looks of things, been tragically betrayed by the very people who were supposed to be housing them safely, and if corners have been cut for aesthetic reasons, then this is not just a moment to reflect on their tragedy, but to perhaps wonder, in which other aspects of "authority" is our trust misplaced?

[Halo Jones]

but the first thing to do would be to address that and retrofit any buildings identified as not being up to the required standard - sounds expensive but the correct response.?

There was a proposed amendment to the Regs recently that would have made it compulsory for Landlords to ensure that existing property was fit to live in and had suitable fire provision (ie sprinklers) but our Parliament voted it down,

I wonder how many of those voting were / are landlords...

[original PM]

Nothing can bring back the dead. But what action can people take to stop a similar event happening?

Well we have building regs for a start - which may or may not have been followed or correct - but the first thing to do would be to address that and retrofit any buildings identified as not being up to the required standard - sounds expensive but the correct response.

So step 1 is reduce as far as possible the risk of this happening again.
Step 2 is to try to rehouse the people quickly - however I think this will take time and Corbyn needs to stop saying that they should commander any empty rich peoples houses - we are not in a communist state and so property is not theft and all that is doing is whipping up anti establishment sentiment.

Beyond that not sure

Maybe go riot and get myself a new pair of Air Jordans?

[BrilloPad]

A riot? Though it should happen in Kensington and Chelsea so so the councillors realise that saving £5K on cladding of a tower block is a false economy.

I would prefer the type of cladding made illegal. And sprinklers compulsory.

Dare I suggest these should be retrospective(cue NLyUK abuse).

[SueEllen]

Nothing can bring back the dead. But what action can people take to stop a similar event happening?

A riot? Though it should happen in Kensington and Chelsea so so the councillors realise that saving £5K on cladding of a tower block is a false economy.

[northernladyuk]

The louder the victims shout the more will happen.

A minutes silence
Update your Facebook profile
Say a prayer at your local place of worship.

All are relevant things to do but none will actually make a difference or bring back the dead.

Nothing can bring back the dead. But what action can people take to stop a similar event happening?

[northernladyuk]

Exactly, I often say the same when I'm helping out with the homeless, disabled, non-binary veterans at the local Charity shop that I part fund with my expenses from contracting.

I'm organising a minute's silence where contractors who work via Ltd's and Brollies silently point their fingers at aggressive tax avoiding colleagues to show who is to blame for cheap flammable cladding on public housing.

[woohoo]

It's hardly the worst virtue signalling in the world.

Exactly, I often say the same when I'm helping out with the homeless, disabled, non-binary veterans at the local Charity shop that I part fund with my expenses from contracting.

[original PM]

Or it's virtue signalling at its worst.

Yes it's sad, but in a way it's disrespectful to pretend that a minute's silence in any way makes up for what happened. And as much as this was a terrible single event, people die all the time, many in a fire in Portugal yesterday. So who is deciding which people are worthy of a minute's silence and which people aren't?

Plus they're always a bit painfully awkward. Sometimes in football or whatever they do a minute's applause for someone who's died, and I think that is a much better idea; both practically and in terms of what it's trying to achieve.

But each to their own. If someone was wanting to observe the silence I wouldn't go and start talking to them or whatever, but equally you shouldn't complain about other people not choosing to take part. In fact I'd bet the majority don't.

The louder the victims shout the more will happen.

A minutes silence
Update your Facebook profile
Say a prayer at your local place of worship.

All are relevant things to do but none will actually make a difference or bring back the dead.

[VectraMan]

It's hardly the worst virtue signalling in the world.

I suppose it's not as bad as politicians lining up to say "Our thoughts and prayers are with those involved".

[northernladyuk]

Or it's virtue signalling at its worst.

It's hardly the worst virtue signalling in the world.

[VectraMan]

No. I'm completely with you. Anyone who can't spare a single poxy minute to show respect for a large but as yet unknown number of men, women and children who died in truly awful and horrific circumstances, has their sense of priorities all wrong.

Or it's virtue signalling at its worst.

Yes it's sad, but in a way it's disrespectful to pretend that a minute's silence in any way makes up for what happened. And as much as this was a terrible single event, people die all the time, many in a fire in Portugal yesterday. So who is deciding which people are worthy of a minute's silence and which people aren't?

Plus they're always a bit painfully awkward. Sometimes in football or whatever they do a minute's applause for someone who's died, and I think that is a much better idea; both practically and in terms of what it's trying to achieve.

But each to their own. If someone was wanting to observe the silence I wouldn't go and start talking to them or whatever, but equally you shouldn't complain about other people not choosing to take part. In fact I'd bet the majority don't.

[MarillionFan]

There are too many silences.

The only time I'm actually silent AND still is on 11th November.

Agreed. Seems we've gone a little overboard now on social grieving.

[northernladyuk]

#unexpectediteminthebaggingarea #fail

The old man had a client over the weekend who was tweeting a complaint for a full refund.

#unexpecteditemintheteabaggingarea