Reply to: Swap my vote

[Mordac]

I'm sure out patriotic Brexit friends will be praising Gina's contribution as an immigrant to the UK democratic process.

Carry on deluding yourself as long as you like. I couldn't give a flying sh*t

[SueEllen]

It didn't work though.

People vote to keep other parties out e.g. UKIP, Labour. For examplein Nick Clegg's constituency Tories voted for him to keep Labour out.

[Mordac]

Actually I know people who tactically voted in 2015.

It didn't work though.

[northernladyuk]

The site was alive and used in 2015.

The idea was is you wanted to vote Green and the largest opposition party in your constituency was Lib Dem, then you would look for someone in say Brighton who wanted to vote Lib Dem. They would then vote Green and you would vote Lib Dem. That way both your votes would be more likely to count and you would help avoid getting in someone for parties you hate.

The current voting system for GE means about 50% of votes are wasted.

Unless a vote is for a candidate who wins with a majority of 1 or who wins on a coin toss after a dead heat, every individual vote is wasted.

[jamesbrown]

UK parliament has always been sovereign, so no need.

This is known within Subcommittee B as delegated "sovereignty" (scare quotes included). Any secondary adjunct of the primary unimatrix (technical speak for "member state") that attempts to blur delegated sovereignty with true sovereignty will suffer the consequences outlined in Article 1 of the Consequences of Deviation. To paraphrase: you're a very naughty adjunct.

[northernladyuk]

Did we run that Act past Subcommittee B of the EC Working Group on Modern Methods of Warfare Against National Deviation in the People's Democratic Republic of Europe?

UK parliament has always been sovereign, so no need.

[jamesbrown]

No, it is treasonous (retrospectively) under the Brexit (Emergency Measures) Enemies of the People Act 2018.

Did we run that Act past Subcommittee B of the EC Working Group on Modern Methods of Warfare Against National Deviation in the People's Democratic Republic of Europe?

[jamesbrown]

If TM ends up with a 17 or even 20 something seat majority, that will be a highly amusing outcome.

If anything, I think the polls are underestimating the degree of hammering that Labour are about to have bestowed upon them. The average punter is not politically engaged, and they're highly unlikely to entertain tactical voting, let alone pre-registering for a tactical vote . It's pure fantasy. Also, I talk to dyed-in-the-wool Labour supporters all the time (a side-effect of working with academics a lot ), and they aren't happy bunnies. A significant number of them aren't going to bother voting at all. The idea that the Lib Dems are going to hoover up all these votes is fallacious (esp. among students and academics ).

[SueEllen]

That's another group of people who have never crossed my path. I don't think they exist tbh - it's just a few guys sitting around making up stuff. Like CUK sockie masters, but trolling politicians and newspaper columnists instead.

They exist.

Their methods are poor.

[barrydidit]

Is it actually legal?

I am tempted to join then lie about my voting intentions. Like I do with pollsters....

That's another group of people who have never crossed my path. I don't think they exist tbh - it's just a few guys sitting around making up stuff. Like CUK sockie masters, but trolling politicians and newspaper columnists instead.

[northernladyuk]

Is it actually legal?

I am tempted to join then lie about my voting intentions. Like I do with pollsters....

No, it is treasonous (retrospectively) under the Brexit (Emergency Measures) Enemies of the People Act 2018.

[BrilloPad]

The site was alive and used in 2015.

The idea was is you wanted to vote Green and the largest opposition party in your constituency was Lib Dem, then you would look for someone in say Brighton who wanted to vote Lib Dem. They would then vote Green and you would vote Lib Dem. That way both your votes would be more likely to count and you would help avoid getting in someone for parties you hate.

The current voting system for GE means about 50% of votes are wasted.

Is it actually legal?

I am tempted to join then lie about my voting intentions. Like I do with pollsters....

[SueEllen]

OK, that does make a lot more sense. It didn't work in 2015, so they don't have much time to make sure it fares any better this time.

Actually I know people who tactically voted in 2015.

[northernladyuk]

Gina Miller plans 'biggest tactical voting effort in UK history' ahead of snap election | The Independent

The election could be interesting at least in some constituencies. Voting tactically looks like the name of the game.

I'm sure out patriotic Brexit friends will be praising Gina's contribution as an immigrant to the UK democratic process.

[Mordac]

The site was alive and used in 2015.

The idea was is you wanted to vote Green and the largest opposition party in your constituency was Lib Dem, then you would look for someone in say Brighton who wanted to vote Lib Dem. They would then vote Green and you would vote Lib Dem. That way both your votes would be more likely to count and you would help avoid getting in someone for parties you hate.

The current voting system for GE means about 50% of votes are wasted.

OK, that does make a lot more sense. It didn't work in 2015, so they don't have much time to make sure it fares any better this time.