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Previously on "UK government is bluffing with cards everyone can see"
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostUtter, utter undemocratic hypocrisy from London.
The relationship between Scotland and the UK is completely different to the relationship between the UK and the European Union.
The UK does not need to ask the EU for permission to hold a leave/remain referendum: we hold one, and then we serve notice under Article 50 to begin a defined period of negotiations for us to exit.
There is no such mechanism for Scotland to leave the UK. Section 30 of the Scotland Act means they have to ask. There is no defined leaving period. As such, uk.gov can say "yes", or they can say "no", or they can say "actually Sturgeon, now really isn't a good time, as you can probably imagine. We've a lot on our plate. Piss off and come back in a couple of years". Which makes sense.
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostLondon : 'we're holding a referendum to leave the Eureopean union
EU: 'OK'
Scotland: 'we're holding a referendum to leave the UK union'
London: ' Oh no you're not'.
Utter, utter undemocratic hypocrisy from London.
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In fact London wanted to split from the UK too .... they may choose to join Scotland
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostLondon : 'we're holding a referendum to leave the Eureopean union
EU: 'OK'
Scotland: 'we're holding a referendum to leave the UK union'
London: ' Oh no you're not'.
Utter, utter undemocratic hypocrisy from London.
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Originally posted by scooterscot View PostLondon : 'we're holding a referendum to leave the Eureopean union
EU: 'OK'
Scotland: 'we're holding a referendum to leave the UK union'
London: ' Oh no you're not'.
Utter, utter undemocratic hypocrisy from London.
Well to be fair they did let them have one a couple of years ago.
And to be practical why should the PM actively undermine the already likely to be tortuous negotiations for BREXT? Nobody in their right mind would try and split the country and leave the EU in one go.
Could be worse though, you could be Catalonian. Mean old Madrid won't even let them have a referendum. Nasty undemocratic Spanish oppressors.
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London : 'we're holding a referendum to leave the Eureopean union
EU: 'OK'
Scotland: 'we're holding a referendum to leave the UK union'
London: ' Oh no you're not'.
Utter, utter undemocratic hypocrisy from London.
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Originally posted by minestrone View Post
My data: 31 Jan, 2017 4:30pm
Oh, and by the way, also Forbes.com but on JAN 30, 2017 @ 12:08 AM: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertels.../#3c62a32776b0
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Originally posted by SandyD View PostNo comparison, Sweden/Norway is like UK/Ireland ... there are not only EU related ties but ancient Scandinavian ties same relation of Sweden to other Scandinavian countries.
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Originally posted by minestrone View Post
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Originally posted by northernladyuk View PostInteresting to look at the Norway / Sweden border arrangements:
Close Sweden-Norway ties despite EU border dividing them
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostOne of the Kippers' rallying cries was "Get control of our borders!", which is hardly compatible with lorries and cars driving at full speed over the borders with only occasional spot checks.
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostI noticed that there was a total fallacy in this post, as always Leavers don't bother to fact check
Volkswagen passes Toyota as world's largest automaker despite scandal
Volkswagen is now the biggest car manufacturer in the world | Auto Express
http://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelsc.../#722b2bb4261f
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Originally posted by minestrone View Post"Sure, their sudden introduction will force some car companies to move to Europe"
A day later...
Toyota to invest £240m in UK plant at Burnaston - BBC News
The worlds largest car manufacturer is clearly unconcerned.
GDP was already meant to be 6% down by now with a million more out of work, it's the same bedwetters making these tulipe predictions.
Volkswagen passes Toyota as world's largest automaker despite scandal
Volkswagen is now the biggest car manufacturer in the world | Auto Express
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