Reply to: Shortage of IT staff.

[mcquiggd]

People seem to forget... it's about managers shifting responsibility for projects...

Outsourcing is the abrogation of responsibility by the manager, while allowing the CFO to juggle budgets.... in the majority of cases, neither understands the project, let alone the business.

So, employing a foreign 'nodding dog' outsourcer appears to be the right choice for them.

It will take an absolute revolution within British management to see the reality. And a mass cull. That won't happen any time soon. And it's too late anyway...

In terms of management, we are back in the 70's, while everyone else has moved on.

[hattra]

Same with us - the place is full of them. I've been QAing some of their code in the last few weeks, and its pretty clear that at least half of them have come straight out of training courses & have no practical experience. They seem to have a group of bods who wander around the office, apparently helping the less able.

You'd think that people would learn - I worked for a largeish US software house in Chicago about 10-12 years ago, that outsourced a load of development work to India - they spent $16million & never used a single line of code - they were forced to scrap the lot, it was so bad.

[Ivor1]

In between the lines should read: Intel (India) president Frank B Jones has second thoughts about moving to India. The standard of so called qualified staff is not up to the level expected nor are there the numbers of qualified staff that the Indian government said there was. Had we known; we would not have made the move.

Tell that to my current client, ******* packing them in now Ive changed my name to fit in, Im now Ivorchinda and love bollywood.

[EqualOpportunities]

Like the chappie across the road from me, who went up the chimbley at the crem about 3 weeks ago...

Crikey, he must've been spritely - they're ever so tall...

[EqualOpportunities]

Some of us won't see 50 again...

Some of us'll never see it if we don't stop drinknig gin and smoking Marlboro...

[lilelvis2000]

They could always hire the 40+ y/o IT pros. here who can't get work.

[AtW]

I thought every man woman and child in India was an IT graduate each of which could put threaded to shame

Shuurely that's not possible?

[Forumbore]

"There was a huge number of graduates and engineers, but people with the technical and communications and team-working skils that were required were often lacking, he told the conference. "

That's our "No tulip Sherlock" Quote of the Year Award won then.

they have a lot of people who nod their heads don't they?

[kramer]

"There was a huge number of graduates and engineers, but people with the technical and communications and team-working skils that were required were often lacking, he told the conference. "

That's our "No tulip Sherlock" Quote of the Year Award won then.

[BoredBloke]

I thought every man woman and child in India was an IT graduate each of which could put threaded to shame

[DimPrawn]

My heart bleeds.

[Paddy]

In between the lines should read: Intel (India) president Frank B Jones has second thoughts about moving to India. The standard of so called qualified staff is not up to the level expected nor are there the numbers of qualified staff that the Indian government said there was. Had we known; we would not have made the move.

[Mordac]

"There was a huge number of graduates and engineers, but people with the technical and communications and team-working skils that were required were often lacking, he told the conference. "

That's our "No tulip Sherlock" Quote of the Year Award won then.

[DimPrawn]

AtW is correct.

There is and always will be a global glut of thick, ignorant people and a shortage of smart, hard working people.

The trick is to pass off the thick ones as smart and make a buck.

[AtW]

There has always been and will continue to be shortage of really smart technical people with the right attitude who don't do it just for money.