"I am under no illusions here that this wouldn't already be happening by itself, but surely this sort of behaviour doesn't portray a happy picture of our "civilised", democratic society, let alone make it any less likely that young Islamic people will use violence to vent their frustration."
Since when were we a democratic society and since when have young Islamic people needed an excuse to be violent? The Government can denounce all it likes but it will make no difference to terrorists who hate our very existance and way of life - the only thing Cheney's remark may do is gain a little more support for the extremists for the muslims on the fence
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Originally posted by expatBelieving in God.
After all, a billion muslims cant all be wrong! (insert exploding on public transport smilie here )
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Originally posted by John GaltEvery civilised nation has publicly denounced torture but do any of you really think that it not used by them all and on a regular basis? It may be as a last resort but I think it is commonplace - after all what else do you do with hardened criminals/terrorists? Ask them nicely?
Yes ask them nicely AND threaten to send them a harshly worded letter if they dont fess up!
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Originally posted by vistaIf torture didn't work it wouldn't be used. To argue that torture doesn't work is the same as saying that something humans have been doing since the year dot doesn't work.
Can anyone think of any other form of behaviour carried out all over the world by every civilisation since time began that doesn't work?
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Originally posted by John GaltIt doesn't matter if it is publicly accepted or codoned by the general populace and no amount of protesting about it will stop it and it is naive to think that it will. Governments will always publicly denounce it and, more significantly, denounce foreign Governments if they are suspected of using it but it will always happen as long as people continue to blow each other upLast edited by XperTest; 31 October 2006, 17:34.
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Originally posted by sunnysanWe all know it gets used, but plucking out Faizel Islams toenails in Camp George Bush in Uzbekistan is a far cry from public acceptance of torture.
If torture is condoned for terrorists what to stop you being tortured as a "terrorist" for protesting at a rally.
Saying it doesnt happen is shortsighted, saying it shouldnt happen is good policy and a safeguard against getting a car battery connected to your scrotum if you protest against council tax rises.
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We all know it gets used, but plucking out Faizel Islams toenails in Camp George Bush in Uzbekistan is a far cry from public acceptance of torture.
If torture is condoned for terrorists what to stop you being tortured as a "terrorist" for protesting at a rally.
Saying it doesnt happen is shortsighted, saying it shouldnt happen is good policy and a safeguard against getting a car battery connected to your scrotum if you protest against council tax rises.
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Every civilised nation has publicly denounced torture but do any of you really think that it not used by them all and on a regular basis? It may be as a last resort but I think it is commonplace - after all what else do you do with hardened criminals/terrorists? Ask them nicely?
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Originally posted by MailmanVery!
Honestly some of you goons need to wake up and smell the coffee. You have more chance of being run over by an out of control hippo than you do of being killed in a terrorist attack
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Originally posted by MailmanVery!
Honestly some of you goons need to wake up and smell the coffee. You have more chance of being run over by an out of control hippo than you do of being killed in a terrorist attack
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Very!
Honestly some of you goons need to wake up and smell the coffee. You have more chance of being run over by an out of control hippo than you do of being killed in a terrorist attack
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Originally posted by XperTestIf you're happy that hundreds of thousands of mainly innocent people are being killed in the name of a fight against "terrorism" (who's the agressor here I often wonder?) and billions of Western taxpayers money are spent doing this based on false confessions and blatant lies than I think any insightful discussion is beyond the realm of possibility. As far as I am concerned the current politics are a dead end street and we are only sowing more hatred rather than making the world a safer place.
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Only a chickenhawk could spout this much cr@p
Originally posted by MailmanDiscredited? More like the softc0cks in the west dont want to use it cause they want to look nice and namby pamby to the pinko leftie lesbo's who think the world is a box of fluffies!
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Originally posted by MailmanMy heart bleeds purple p1ss for Ibn al-Sheikh al-Libi. Perhaps if he stayed at home raising his goats he wouldnt have got an all expenses paid trip to sunny cuba
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