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[rl4engc]

You'll get that anyway if there's a Brexit. Its funny that the Germans and French governments are against it yet the British is for it

AFAIK TTIP is a shady agreement between the US and EU. But if I'm wrong and in the unlikely event it's ever signed into UK law, post Brexit, it can be repealled by the next set of idiots voted in.

If it's signed into EU law, post Remain, it can never be repealled by democratic means ("in perpertuity"). Only by civil unrest and the breakdown of the EU (which will probably happen in a post-Remain scenario anyway).

[VectraMan]

Idiots will vote stay because they are told free trade deals are coming with India etc. How long's it taken them so far, 9 years was it?

But of course the UK will have one within the first week after Brexit.

Don't hold your breath.

I won't!

EDIT Oh, what's that secret 'trade deal' the EU is quietly negotiating with the US, TTIP wasn't it. You know the one, only MEPs are allowed to view the full text, after being escorted into a room by a minder and handing over all electronic devices. They're allowed to make notes of the text, but not copy it out verbatim. That sounds like a great free trade agreement! Especially the ISDS section, that allows US companies to sue our government if they do something which may affect their profits.

Is that how you want future "Free Trade" deals to be negotiated on our behalf?

Because a much smaller, much weaker country acting on its own is going to have a much better time negotiating with the US, or with China? Does that really make sense?

There's still the 107 countries that we currently have free trade deals with now that you plan to walk away from.

[darmstadt]

It'll be six soon. Don't forget Turkey.

I don't think so now that the Germans have really pissed them off: Turkey recalls ambassador after German MPs' Armenian genocide vote | World news | The Guardian

[darmstadt]

EDIT Oh, what's that secret 'trade deal' the EU is quietly negotiating with the US, TTIP wasn't it. You know the one, only MEPs are allowed to view the full text, after being escorted into a room by a minder and handing over all electronic devices. They're allowed to make notes of the text, but not copy it out verbatim. That sounds like a great free trade agreement! Especially the ISDS section, that allows US companies to sue our government if they do something which may affect their profits.

Is that how you want future "Free Trade" deals to be negotiated on our behalf?

You'll get that anyway if there's a Brexit. Its funny that the Germans and French governments are against it yet the British is for it

[rl4engc]

30 free trade deals in force (if I counted it right), plus 50 more coming, plus the 27 countries of the EU. That's free trade with 107 countries you don't want us to have, plus the biggest one of all with the US.

Idiots give their bank details out because some official from a Nigerian bank promised to do a bank transfer, these people are told the money is coming.

Idiots will vote stay because they are told free trade deals are coming with India etc. How long's it taken them so far, 9 years was it?

Don't hold your breath.

EDIT Oh, what's that secret 'trade deal' the EU is quietly negotiating with the US, TTIP wasn't it. You know the one, only MEPs are allowed to view the full text, after being escorted into a room by a minder and handing over all electronic devices. They're allowed to make notes of the text, but not copy it out verbatim. That sounds like a great free trade agreement! Especially the ISDS section, that allows US companies to sue our government if they do something which may affect their profits.

Is that how you want future "Free Trade" deals to be negotiated on our behalf?

[The_Equalizer]

OK let's look at GDP instead, top 20 countries as of 2014, source World Bank.

United States $17,419,000,000,000.00
China $10,354,831,729,340.00
Japan $4,601,461,206,885.00
Germany $3,868,291,231,824.00
United Kingdom $2,988,893,283,565.00
France $2,829,192,039,172.00
Brazil $2,416,635,506,076.00
Italy $2,141,161,325,367.00
India $2,048,517,438,874.00
Russian Federation $1,860,597,922,763.00
Canada $1,785,386,649,602.00
Australia $1,454,675,479,666.00
Korea, Rep. $1,410,382,988,616.00
Spain $1,381,342,101,736.00
Mexico $1,294,689,733,233.00
Indonesia $888,538,201,025.00
Netherlands $879,319,321,495.00
Turkey $798,429,233,036.00
Saudi Arabia $753,831,733,333.00
Switzerland $701,037,135,966.00

Out of the top 20, only 5 are in the EU. We're as a nation unable to create our own trade deals with the vast majority of the worlds largest economies, because the EU won't allow it.

It'll be six soon. Don't forget Turkey.

[VectraMan]

Also the small matter of the tarriffs imposed on goods to non-EU countries, making it uneconomic for buyers to import them.

I thought that's what you wanted?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...ade_agreements

30 free trade deals in force (if I counted it right), plus 50 more coming, plus the 27 countries of the EU. That's free trade with 107 countries you don't want us to have, plus the biggest one of all with the US.

Don't worry though. We'll be able to negotiate them all back in a jiffy, and nab China to boot.

[DimPrawn]

You're more likely to receive cheap food from brazil than sell there.

We can sell them toxic debt futures wrapped in hedged derivative options. They can't lose!

[rl4engc]

There's nada stopping the UK trading with outside the EU but our own ineptitude.

Also the small matter of the tarriffs imposed on goods to non-EU countries, making it uneconomic for buyers to import them.

[diseasex]

OK let's look at GDP instead, top 20 countries as of 2014, source World Bank.

United States $17,419,000,000,000.00
China $10,354,831,729,340.00
Japan $4,601,461,206,885.00
Germany $3,868,291,231,824.00
United Kingdom $2,988,893,283,565.00
France $2,829,192,039,172.00
Brazil $2,416,635,506,076.00
Italy $2,141,161,325,367.00
India $2,048,517,438,874.00
Russian Federation $1,860,597,922,763.00
Canada $1,785,386,649,602.00
Australia $1,454,675,479,666.00
Korea, Rep. $1,410,382,988,616.00
Spain $1,381,342,101,736.00
Mexico $1,294,689,733,233.00
Indonesia $888,538,201,025.00
Netherlands $879,319,321,495.00
Turkey $798,429,233,036.00
Saudi Arabia $753,831,733,333.00
Switzerland $701,037,135,966.00

Out of the top 20, only 5 are in the EU. We're as a nation unable to create our own trade deals with the vast majority of the worlds largest economies, because the EU won't allow it.

You're more likely to receive cheap food from brazil than sell there.

[rl4engc]

That's biggest bulltulip I've ever heard. Fastest growing? Also poorest. Like elephant (eu) to an ant (emerging markets). And their political stability is well to say at least , poor too

OK let's look at GDP instead, top 20 countries as of 2014, source World Bank.

United States $17,419,000,000,000.00
China $10,354,831,729,340.00
Japan $4,601,461,206,885.00
Germany $3,868,291,231,824.00
United Kingdom $2,988,893,283,565.00
France $2,829,192,039,172.00
Brazil $2,416,635,506,076.00
Italy $2,141,161,325,367.00
India $2,048,517,438,874.00
Russian Federation $1,860,597,922,763.00
Canada $1,785,386,649,602.00
Australia $1,454,675,479,666.00
Korea, Rep. $1,410,382,988,616.00
Spain $1,381,342,101,736.00
Mexico $1,294,689,733,233.00
Indonesia $888,538,201,025.00
Netherlands $879,319,321,495.00
Turkey $798,429,233,036.00
Saudi Arabia $753,831,733,333.00
Switzerland $701,037,135,966.00

Out of the top 20, only 5 are in the EU. We're as a nation unable to create our own trade deals with the vast majority of the worlds largest economies, because the EU won't allow it.

[DodgyAgent]

Boris Trump.

[diseasex]

I was thinking more about all the people, inside the offices of all those buildings. You see they do a thing loosely called "The Service Industry" and it generates about 78% of our GDP. A Brexit would mean those people could open up trade with some on the fastest growing nations on the planet; India, China, Brazil, Australia etc. which we can't currently do as the EU won't let us.

Regarding the foreign ownership, DC has promised to get tough on 'Corruption' and offshore tax havens, do you trust him to? Not sure what Boris' policy is on it, but I'd hazard a guess he'll actually do more as PM and his sidekick that just stand there looking like a sweaty pig and a puppet spouting doom and gloom.

That's biggest bulltulip I've ever heard. Fastest growing? Also poorest. Like elephant (eu) to an ant (emerging markets). And their political stability is well to say at least , poor too

[scooterscot]

I was thinking more about all the people, inside the offices of all those buildings. You see they do a thing loosely called "The Service Industry" and it generates about 78% of our GDP. A Brexit would mean those people could open up trade with some on the fastest growing nations on the planet; India, China, Brazil, Australia etc. which we can't currently do as the EU won't let us.

I've daily experience the the UK services industry. Have you ever taken out a load and paid PPI? Did you claim for that accident on your holiday your taking next week?

There's nada stopping the UK trading with outside the EU but our own ineptitude.

[rl4engc]

Interesting you choose a picture that displays buildings mostly in foreign ownership as a sign of British wealth.

I was thinking more about all the people, inside the offices of all those buildings. You see they do a thing loosely called "The Service Industry" and it generates about 78% of our GDP. A Brexit would mean those people could open up trade with some on the fastest growing nations on the planet; India, China, Brazil, Australia etc. which we can't currently do as the EU won't let us.

Regarding the foreign ownership, DC has promised to get tough on 'Corruption' and offshore tax havens, do you trust him to? Not sure what Boris' policy is on it, but I'd hazard a guess he'll actually do more as PM and his sidekick that just stand there looking like a sweaty pig and a puppet spouting doom and gloom.