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Previously on "£45K per Year is enough ?"

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  • PurpleGorilla
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    See plenty of permie .NET salaries in central London at around £50K.

    When you consider you see similar roles well outside London for similar pay, but the price of a house it 10% of the London price, and that commuting into London is tulip nasty, time consuming and costly, what sort of takes these jobs?

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  • DimPrawn
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    £45k is only enough in London AFTER all your costs are paid for - housing, food, travel, holidays, drinks, operas, divorce settlement with wives...
    Make that monthly then....

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  • AtW
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    £45k is only enough in London AFTER all your costs are paid for - housing, food, travel, holidays, drinks, operas, divorce settlement with wives...

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  • chrisfit
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    £45k is a decent permie wage for someone with only five years experience.
    The one thing that I'm not sure about is how contractors are thought of in France versus England; are they considered to be specialists brought in for projects or just Joe Temp off the street because an extra body is needed on the project?
    Mostly Job Temp . In France , the IT area work mainly with SSII (eg. IT agency) which hire people as Permie most of the time . But some people could sometimes contract with them. But It's really not common to go direct with client like in UK I guess ...

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    Then his wife better get a decent job though the cost of childcare would put pay to that....
    She could become a childminder and charge her husband to look after his kid...

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
    £45k is a decent permie wage for someone with only five years experience.
    Then his wife better get a decent job though the cost of childcare would put pay to that....

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  • FatLazyContractor
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    £150k in London probably okish, but really it should be £250k to have relatively comfortable lifestyle or £550k for a jacuzzi tub lifestyle.

    HTH

    MF

    FTFY

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  • LondonManc
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    £45k is a decent permie wage for someone with only five years experience.
    The one thing that I'm not sure about is how contractors are thought of in France versus England; are they considered to be specialists brought in for projects or just Joe Temp off the street because an extra body is needed on the project?

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  • Mincepie
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    Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    I think your question is the following;

    Is £45k enough for a London job with a wife and baby to support.

    It sounds tough to me. Really tough. You could do it, but you will be skint.
    No bloody chance i would say, you should be looking for another 15k and a commute into London from the burbs

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  • AtW
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    £150k in London probably okish, but really it should be £250k to have relatively comfortable lifestyle.

    HTH

    sasguru

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  • fullyautomatix
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    Why are you thinking of jumping into permanent from contracting ? You might be better off sticking to contracting if you are thinking of living in London. With 45k you will struggle massively in London.

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  • fullyautomatix
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    Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View Post
    Original Post by Clement - Yesterday at 21:35
    First post by Chrisfit - Yesterday at 22:26

    Either way, that wasn't my point

    Where do you see Christfit ?

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  • DimPrawn
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    See plenty of permie .NET salaries in central London at around £50K.

    When you consider you see similar roles well outside London for similar pay, but the price of a house it 10% of the London price, and that commuting into London is tulip nasty, time consuming and costly, what sort of takes these jobs?

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  • ELBBUBKUNPS
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    £45k with 5 years experiences in London isn't too bad these days considering its 5 years experience, salaries in IT in London doing BI are pretty sh*t compared to the cost of living in London, a front office BI Dev manager for a bank in London with say 10 years experience could earn these days 95k - 105k and should not expect a bonus but if you did get one 5-10k. For a 70k hire I would be expecting 8 - 10 yrs experience and to be operating at a senior dev level. Compare this back to early 2000 when I was working in BI with 3 years experience I bagged mid 40k's and 10k bonuses. The days of salaries in London reflecting cost of living here have long gone imo, your better off outside of London, imo its happened because of off-shoring.

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  • OwlHoot
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    Originally posted by Troll View Post
    there are plenty of pedants who love to point out spelling and grammatical errors ...
    Shouldn't that be there _is_ plenty?

    I mean there may be more than one grammar pedant here, but there is only one plenty of them.

    Perhaps one of my fellow grammar pedants might care to comment.

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