Reply to: Porsche not safe, more fun and games for VW

[darmstadt]

Cheaper, yes, everything else is bollox...

Oh I don't know, lets take the 911 Carrera GTS which is a reasonably mid-high end model:

Porsche BMW
430bhp 431bhp
306kmh 311kmh (only 250 when restricted)
0-60 4.4s 0-60 3.9s
basic is €117.549 Mine was around half that with a lot of extras
2 passengers 4 passengers (5 if smaller than MF)

[darmstadt]

What's the top speed? Thought they were limited to 155mph?

They are but you can get the M drivers packet, mine is up to 311 km/h which I think is 193 mph

[LondonManc]

Less CO2 Faster, more powerful (apart from a handful of exotic expensive Porsches), better fuel consumption, 4 door family saloon and of course, cheaper

What's the top speed? Thought they were limited to 155mph?

[AtW]

Less CO2 Faster, more powerful (apart from a handful of exotic expensive Porsches), better fuel consumption, 4 door family saloon and of course, cheaper

Cheaper, yes, everything else is bollox...

[darmstadt]

Pretty cool car, but it's no Porsche

Less CO2 Faster, more powerful (apart from a handful of exotic expensive Porsches), better fuel consumption, 4 door family saloon and of course, cheaper

[AtW]

No, thats the F82 and the M4 cabrio is the F83, mine is the M3...

Pretty cool car, but it's no Porsche

[darmstadt]

New M4?

No, thats the F82 and the M4 cabrio is the F83, mine is the M3...

[AtW]

As is driving a racing car on the road.

An old racing car without modern electronics to control traction ...

[minsky1]

Its the idiot behind the wheel that is the cause of the issue not the car.

The cars don't lend themselves too well to frontal collisions (911s or Carerra GTs) - in 911s, Boxters and Caymans the fuel tank is in the front luggage compartment forward of the bulkhead. A receipe for disaster if it ruptures.

The Carrera GT could be different the fuel filler looks like it's on the rear quarterpanel.

Ryan Dunn got switched off in a GT3 ... same story, hit a lamppost I think and got frazzled in the aftermath.

Speed and inexperience is the problem.

[AtW]

I don't have a Merc I have a BMW F80 but when I worked there I had an AMG

New M4?

[darmstadt]

I suppose it's not safe in the same way that the 7 litre AC cobra wasn't safe.

Mmmm, the ideal summer country lane car

[darmstadt]

I am surprised they allow you to park there in your Merc...

I don't have a Merc I have a BMW F80 but when I worked there I had an AMG

[AtW]

I was working at the Porsche R&D centre in Weissach

I am surprised they allow you to park there in your Merc...

[darmstadt]

I was working at the Porsche R&D centre in Weissach when these came out. My office was about 150m away from the test track and all day long you could hear these things being thrashed around the test track although when just ticking over they sounded like a big old diesel (my car does too when started from cold.) On my way to work I drive near the Porsche factory and not too far from the R&D place so quite often see some nice top of the range Porsche's and also the AMG and Mercedes factories so you get to see quite a few of their prototypes on the roads around here....

[LondonManc]

Ah, didn't realise it was a GT and not a standard 911 of whatever spec (the Turbo S looks fantastic).