Straw right, sort of.

[Spacecadet]

Although having said that, a quick search of the interweb (they dont come more informed than wikipedia) couldnt turn up anything about excluding people from passover events or the sole reason of passover being to keep them jooooooos seperate from everyone else?

Mailman

From wikipedia

It is found in Moses' words that God "will pass over" the houses of the Israelites during the final plague of the Ten Plagues of Egypt, the killing of the first-born. On the night of that plague, which occurred on the 15th day of Nisan, the Israelites smeared their lintels and doorposts with the blood of the Passover sacrifice and were spared.

obviously any non-jews present would be spared Gods wrath hence the exclusion

[Mailman]

Disagree. Passover is a difference: observant Jews will not eat with you during Passover. It is designed to keep them separate. If you don't really know many observant Jews then you might not notice, of course, but that doesn't alter the point that it is made to perpetuate separateness.

Quick, lets ban Christmas too since that excludes all them nasty non-christians!

Although having said that, a quick search of the interweb (they dont come more informed than wikipedia) couldnt turn up anything about excluding people from passover events or the sole reason of passover being to keep them jooooooos seperate from everyone else?

Mailman's comment is inane because it quite ignored what I said; but I'll answer it anyway: I have indeed noticed not being able to see people's faces because of Passover, because they stay home. Don't even know what I'm talking about I suppose.

Actually your comment was inane as you tried to play the good old moral equivalency card. Unfortunately for you that is up there with Godwins law

Mailman

[shaunbhoy]

best to leave this sort of debate to people like me

I would scarcely leave you in charge of a mass debate, despite your years of experience in that field.
In short, if intellects were made of dynamite, you would not have enough to blow your nose!

[BoredBloke]

"It is designed to keep them separate"

I thought that it was all about contaminatoin of food and knives, forks etc.

[Jobberwacky]

This isn't the politics of the market stall here sb. There is more to life than a pound of sprouts and a bucket of p*g tulip. The intellectual elite have to tackle complex issues with many competing yet highly persuasive arguments. It is best to leave this sort of debate to people like me and other political heavyweights. Best you concentrate your energy on your turnips.

[sasguru]

Disagree. Passover is a difference: observant Jews will not eat with you during Passover. It is designed to keep them separate. If you don't really know many observant Jews then you might not notice, of course, but that doesn't alter the point that it is made to perpetuate separateness.

Mailman's comment is inane because it quite ignored what I said; but I'll answer it anyway: I have noticed not being able to see people's faces becaise of Passover, because they stay home. Don't even know what I'm talking about I suppose.

Ok didn't know that about passover - the one or two Jews I know are non-observant as are the Muslims. Don't think I'd want to know anyone religious - I like to keep myself separate from them

[shaunbhoy]

Let them wear what they want FFS! We trumpet on in this country about freedom of speech and expression then get all defensive when a certain minority do just that. So Jack Straw feels uncomfortable speaking to someone when he can't see their face? I take it he doesn't have a fecking phone then!!

[expat]

playing guess the hottie based on eyes alone can be quite erotic. SOme of those eyes can be VERY expressive.

I suppose that's why being able to do the "liquid eyes" is an important talent for the men who play hot chicks in Japanese Theatre. I'll leave hot eyes to you, thanks.

[expat]

Agree with Mailman. There's a qualitative difference between believing something privately and shoving that belief in someone's face - look at me, I'm different.
Have to say though, playing guess the hottie based on eyes alone can be quite erotic. SOme of those eyes can be VERY expressive.

Disagree. Passover is a difference: observant Jews will not eat with you during Passover. It is designed to keep them separate. If you don't really know many observant Jews then you might not notice, of course, but that doesn't alter the point that it is made to perpetuate separateness.

Mailman's comment is inane because it quite ignored what I said; but I'll answer it anyway: I have indeed noticed not being able to see people's faces because of Passover, because they stay home. Don't even know what I'm talking about I suppose.

[Bernard Common]

You don't look at the mantlepiece while poking the fire do ya?

[sasguru]

Agree with Mailman. There's a qualitative difference between believing something privately and shoving that belief in someone's face - look at me, I'm different.
Have to say though, playing guess the hottie based on eyes alone can be quite erotic. SOme of those eyes can be VERY expressive.

[Mailman]

Funny, I dont ever remember not being able to see a persons face because of pass over

Mailman

[expat]

Clearly the full veil is a sign of separateness.

So is Passover.