Reply to: The Litvinyenko affair....

[Jog On]

And here's today's offering from the BBC:

BBC News - Ukraine crisis: US considers 'lethal aid' to government

It has all the usual omissions and whooly covering of inconvenient facts such as:

Both sides have blamed each other for dozens of recent deaths of civilians

Not blaming it on the Russians then - if not thet why not? Because the civilian deaths are in East Ukraine and Poroshenko is killing his own people maybe? Or are the Russian side shelling themselves?

Fifteen civilians were killed in the rebel-held city of Donetsk over the weekend, rebel sources said.

Overall, more than 5,000 people have been killed and some 1.2 million have fled their homes since last April, when the rebels seized a big swathe of Luhansk and Donetsk regions, following Russia's annexation of Crimea

What's the death count for each side? How does that fit the Western narrative? Also the 1.2 million who have fled their homes - where have they fled to and who has taken them in and given them asylum and safety? It aint Kiev... How does that fit the Western narrative?

In an interesting twist they've allowed comments on this article - almost all of which are BBC readers expressing concern about the direction this whole thing is going in.

There is hope for humanity yet

The BBC need a serious slap from Ofcom it would seem...

[Jog On]

And this just in - not an RT link this time just for some balance:

Obama Admits US Role in Ukraine Overthrow

[tarbera]

I'm changing my job title to 'spy'

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31096849

I wonder if he had opt-out issues or was IR35 caught

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Another case of aggressive Russian propaganda - Oh no!!

?Epic fail! US diplomats find they can?t control the narrative on social media ? RT Op-Edge

On a recent spat between the Economist and RT, an official from the US’ Moscow embassy tweeted a poll to his followers on whether tho's version of events they trust more:

The brave Will decided to conduct a Twitter poll, allowing his 1,600 followers to decide whether they believed RT’s version of events or those of The Economist. As of 6 p.m. Moscow time on Sunday, 617 had ‘favorited’ for RT and 43 had ‘retweeted’ for The Economist. Twitter diplomacy had become Twitter democracy, and Mr. Steven’s epic fail was apparent.

Thanks to his tweet, we also know that a portion of those interested in US-Russia relations trust RT over The Economist by a margin of over 14 to 1.

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Which they ignore...

Russia Today threatened with Ofcom sanctions due to bias | Media | The Guardian

Having said that I only ever watch the Russian on didn't know there was a UK version!

Margarita Simonyan, RT’s editor-in-chief, said: “We accept the decision of Ofcom to have held, in effect, that a government’s viewpoint must always be reflected and given due weight when it is criticised in the reporting of major political controversies.


“We look forward to Ofcom applying today’s ruling impartially to all broadcasters reporting on any government, irrespective of its political leaning.

“Broadcasters under UK jurisdiction do not always reflect the viewpoint of governments perceived as politically opposed to European and/or US political establishments.

“This ruling means that this will have to change, at least for those broadcasters regulated by Ofcom, if double standards are to be avoided. We shall continue to abide by the requirements of Ofcom in all RT broadcasts.”

So are Fox news, CNN, BBC regulated by Ofcom? I also look forward to this being applied to their broadcasts as well.

I quite like their response to the Guardian's RT bashing as well.

It amuses me to see all these Western politicains and mainstream media outlets freaking out that Russia is "winning the information war" and trying to paint it as aggressive propaganda...

Like it's nothing to do with the actual information itself...

How about we stop invading and bombing other countries, engineering coups to overthrow elected leaders (and replace with puppets) and lying through our teeth (Iraq WMDs anyone?) expecting everyone to just drink the cool aid and buy the latest fear campaign to sell us on the latest boogeyman they need to attack next...

[DodgyAgent]

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Second, Litvinyenko is old news, it's dug up just to have a pop at Russia. More effort has been put into this case than David Kelly. Litvinyenko was wheeling and dealing, he had other enemies.

Third. Evgeny Lebedev, the owner of the Evening Standard, in anti Putin and spends a fortune on the issue. He talks a lot of crap and misinformation about Russia.

Fourth, the Pussy Riot fiasco, interviewed by the BBC reporter jenny Murry: "It must be dangerous living in Russian, the government kills Journalists who speak out… don’t' they." Pussy R: " umm "

Interesting attitude "he asked for it" and "it is old news" Sound like a typical "self loathing" leftie who wants to admonish everyone else from doing anything wrong whilst criticising our own country.

[Paddy]

BBC and RT are both governed by the same OFCOM regulations...

Ofcom | What is Ofcom?

What we do not do

complaints about accuracy in BBC programmes;

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The Litvinyenko affair....

Which they ignore...

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...raine-coverage

Having said that I only ever watch the Russian on didn't know there was a UK version!

[darmstadt]

RT is governed by OFCOM. Why don't you complain?

BTW. BBC is not governed OFCOM.

BBC and RT are both governed by the same OFCOM regulations...

19.3.1

Ofcom has certain powers to regulate the BBC's licence fee funded television and radio services aimed at audiences in the UK, but not the World Service which is grant-in-aid funded. Ofcom's Broadcasting Code applies in the following areas:

Protection of under-18s
Harm and Offence
Avoidance of inciting crime or disorder
Responsible approach to religious content
Prohibition of use of images of very brief duration
Fairness
Privacy.
The Editorial Guidelines reflect the provisions of the Ofcom Broadcasting Code in these areas.

19.3.2

In addition, the BBC's commercial services (whether broadcasting to the UK, or from the UK to our international audiences) must comply with the whole of the Ofcom Broadcasting Code.

19.3.3

Where Ofcom finds a breach of the privacy or fairness sections of its Code, it may require the BBC to broadcast a statement of its findings. Where Ofcom considers that the Code has been breached "seriously, deliberately, repeatedly, or recklessly", it can impose sanctions, which range from a requirement to broadcast a correction or statement of finding to a fine of no more than £250,000.

[Paddy]

RT? Balanced? Lol!!

RT is governed by OFCOM. Why don't you complain?

BTW. BBC is not governed OFCOM.

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RT? Balanced? Lol!!

[Paddy]

Here is what RT.com won't be reporting to you - today a mother of 7 kids in Russia was arrested for treason, what did she do? She overheard local Russian military officer talk that they are going on a "far away trip" and next day local military special forces unit looked closed, so she made a phone call to Ukrainian embassy about it. Bang - arrest for treason! Did RT.com report it?

Oh wait, I forgot - you just care about what RT.com says about Western politicians that they are supposedly hiding, golly - decades of free press in the West were all in vain, suddenly RT.com is telling to the truth that West was hiding, wow!!!

AtW, you are a first class blithering idiot. You are so blinded with prejudice you will not let facts get in the way of your fantasy world. Anything you don't like on the forum you complain to the moderators.

First, story is on RT, and it is balanced.

The case has been widely discussed on Russian social media, with many blaming the authorities for detaining a mother of seven. Davydova has three natural children. The other four children are from her husband and Svetlana's' sister, who was previously married to the same man. They live all together, a source within the social department of Smolensk told Interfax.

'Mother of 7' arrested in Russia on high treason charges ? RT Russian politics

Second, Litvinyenko is old news, it's dug up just to have a pop at Russia. More effort has been put into this case than David Kelly. Litvinyenko was wheeling and dealing, he had other enemies.

Third. Evgeny Lebedev, the owner of the Evening Standard, in anti Putin and spends a fortune on the issue. He talks a lot of crap and misinformation about Russia.

Fourth, the Pussy Riot fiasco, interviewed by the BBC reporter jenny Murry: "It must be dangerous living in Russian, the government kills Journalists who speak out… don’t' they." Pussy R: " umm "

[DodgyAgent]

You keep writing in broken English. Are you a Bob?

He probably knows a bit more than you do about Russian history, current affairs and politics

[Batcher]

Yes, I've asked first about stuff critical of Putin.

I can find on BBC video critical of the Govt and personally Cameron, can he or you find same on RT.com?

Can this be found on Russian version of the channel?

Anyway fook you all Putin lovers, we'll talk again when he is dead.

You keep writing in broken English. Are you a Bob?

[AtW]

Jeez, he produces the evidence you want but then you ask for more. Are you incapable of searching the internet yourself?

Yes, I've asked first about stuff critical of Putin.

I can find on BBC video critical of the Govt and personally Cameron, can he or you find same on RT.com?

Can this be found on Russian version of the channel?

Anyway fook you all Putin lovers, we'll talk again when he is dead.