Reply to: UKIP motif... it's a bit krap innit?

[Old Greg]

Vote UKIN!

FTFY

[KentPhilip]

Vote UKIP!

[Old Greg]

And what about their other policies such as employment rights?

IIRC ZL believes in the repeal of anti-child labour laws (or maybe that's Spontaneous Order, I get them mixed up).

[lilelvis2000]

Far too many nuts in that party. Have a look on twitter sometime. Some of them are complete kooks. Farage's feed is a laugh a minute!

[Troll]

So you voted New Labour then?

[Zero Liability]

Ya, what of it?

[darmstadt]

In case you haven't noticed, I'm not much of a leftist, unlike the Greens. I'm not a great believer in democracy or any of the mainstream parties, however the Eurosceptic, pro market faction of the Tories appeals to me, thus why I favour UKIP. It provides them with much needed competition, to thaw out of their state of utter lethargy.

And what about their other policies such as employment rights?

[Zero Liability]

In case you haven't noticed, I'm not much of a leftist, unlike the Greens. I'm not a great believer in democracy or any of the mainstream parties, however the Eurosceptic, pro market faction of the Tories appeals to me, thus why I favour UKIP. It provides them with much needed competition, to thaw out of their state of utter lethargy.

[darmstadt]

Still better than throwing away a vote on one of the three stooges or their respective parties, I think. Honestly, all those rather charged adjectives and nouns could just as well apply to voters of the Tories, Labour or the Lib-dems.

Why not the Green Party then:

The Green Party favours a referendum on the EU because they are opposed to the extremely undemocratic way the EU is currently structured, as well as the unsustainable neoclassical economic ideology that the EU actively promotes. The Green party would prefer to see the EU reformed from within to make it more democratic and more accountable. They would also like to ditch the ideological obsession with the neoclassical economic orthodoxy and the ridiculous single currency experiment.

The Green party is committed to a referendum of the EU, but they have not decided which side of the debate they would side with. They want the referendum because they believe that the debate would trigger reform of the EU, however if major reforms are not forthcoming, it seems highly likely that the Greens would campaign for an EU exit, since the structures and objectives of the EU as currently constituted are fundamentally incompatible with the core Green values of democracy and sustainability.

Here is a quote from the Green MP Caroline Lucas:

"I support a referendum on our membership of the EU because I am pro-democracy."

Here are some quotes from the Green party policy document on the EU which confirm that they have correctly identified the major problems with the way the EU is structured.

The current structure of the EU:

"The Green Party is opposed to the objectives, structure and policies of the EU as currently constituted."

The anti-democratic European Commission:

" The Green Party believes that the excessive influence of the Commission and its associated bodies compared to the Council and Parliament is both undemocratic and unaccountable."

The anti-democratic European Central Bank:

"[The Eurozone] is run by the European Central Bank (ECB), a collection of bankers appointed by Council subject to no effective democratic control, but able to override the democratic decisions made by member countries."

The lack of democracy and citizen participation:

"A major weakness of the present European Union is the lack of mechanisms to ensure that the powers and structures of the EU have the consent of the citizens of member countries."

The economically illiterate single currency experiment:

"The Green Party is opposed to EMU and the single currency. We believe it undermines local and regional economies."

"The Green Party is opposed to the UK joining the Eurozone. We are committed to a referendum on any such decision and will join the campaign for a 'No' vote in any such referendum."

Just like UKIP, they participate in EU elections and try to change the EU from within (unlike the Ukip):

"Whilst the Green Party is opposed to the objectives, structure and policies of the EU as currently constituted, as long as the U.K. remains a member of the EU the Green Party will stand in elections to the European Parliament and elected Green MEPs will work for fundamental reform of the EU from within."

[Zero Liability]

Still better than throwing away a vote on one of the three stooges or their respective parties, I think. Honestly, all those rather charged adjectives and nouns could just as well apply to voters of the Tories, Labour or the Lib-dems.

[darmstadt]

[Troll]

Ohhh another one jumps ship


Conservative MP Mark Reckless has announced that he is joining UKIP.

[Flashman]

Nigel Farage introduces Mark Reckless at the UKIP Conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzR5kmJn2IY

NO. 2!

We're gonna win,
We're gonna win
We're gonna win

etc
etc

[darmstadt]

[Flashman]

Its those yellow and purple colours. They seem to be everywhere.