Reply to: The rules of contracting

[ratewhore]

It's about managing the relationship. If your builder is doing a long-term project for you and doesn't turn up one day without saying, you'd get a bit annoyed - I treat it the same way. You tell though, not ask.

Here we go again, it's either a plumber or a fecking builder!! FFS, apples and oranges. When was the last time you got paid cash in hand?

[bobhope]

It's about managing the relationship. If your builder is doing a long-term project for you and doesn't turn up one day without saying, you'd get a bit annoyed - I treat it the same way. You tell though, not ask.

[VectraMan]

Indeed many do.

I'm working mostly from home so my commute is short and I can work when I want, but you've still got to be available in office hours to talk to the client, send files back and forth, and so on.

I managed to acheive that for a little while, but now have slipped back into doing pretty much full time hours with the permies. I see it as satisfying the customer requirements; my contract says I get paid for the full day if I do at least 4 hours, but the client isn't going to be happy with me if I only do 4 hours a day. I'm working on a project by myself that needs to be finished ASAP, so there's no justification for saying that there's no work for me on a particular day.

It always strikes me as an odd arrangement. I could do 12 hours days and get the project finished sooner, but as I'm paid per day there's no benefit to me doing that. If I was paid 6 months money even if I did the work in 3, I'd work all hours to get it done, the client would get the product sooner and I'd be better off too. Win win.

[wendigo100]

I'm not talking about from an IR35 perspective, I am talking about mindset. Long term contractors act and think like permies.

Indeed many do.

I'm working mostly from home so my commute is short and I can work when I want, but you've still got to be available in office hours to talk to the client, send files back and forth, and so on.

[Bagpuss]

cr*p!

Why do we insist on swallowing the tripe that comes out of New Labour and the Treasury.

I person who is at the same site for 18months is

a) either so good the client does not want to lose there services and they get repeat business

b) On a long term contract

Either way they never become an employee unless and until a court says otherwise.

I'm not talking about from an IR35 perspective, I am talking about mindset. Long term contractors act and think like permies.

[zathras]

Bagpuss who is a Permie rule: If you have worked at 1 site > 18 months you are a Permie and should be treated with mistrust

cr*p!

Why do we insist on swallowing the tripe that comes out of New Labour and the Treasury.

I person who is at the same site for 18months is

a) either so good the client does not want to lose there services and they get repeat business

b) On a long term contract

Either way they never become an employee unless and until a court says otherwise.

[Ardesco]

Yeah but you go where the money is

[weemster]

Pah if i left now how would i get my 8 hours in????


Still it's not so bad in First Class, free drinks, nibbles and a paper and a snakbox on Virgin trains

Sounds good !!

Still I think I'd rather have my current gig which is five mins. walk

[n5gooner]

Pah if i left now how would i get my 8 hours in????


Still it's not so bad in First Class, free drinks, nibbles and a paper and a snakbox on Virgin trains

first class is ok on the EuroStar.....more so when you pay and the client then pays you the ticket price...

[Ardesco]

On your way home now then

Pah if i left now how would i get my 8 hours in????


Still it's not so bad in First Class, free drinks, nibbles and a paper and a snakbox on Virgin trains

[n5gooner]

As we are contractors, do any of you conform like a permie ? i.e. start at a set time, finish at a set time (perhaps 9-5) have to beg graciously for a day off etc ? or do you just come and go as you wish,

I come and go as I please, if I want a long lunch then I'll take one, if I want a lie in then I'll take one.....my contract says 37.5 hours, but I'm on a daily rate, I'm valued for what I do, I can make up the time for bank holidays, etc....is that part of being a contractor???

[Mr Crosby]

He's letting you down.

[Andyw]

[el duder]

As we are contractors, do any of you conform like a permie ? i.e. start at a set time, finish at a set time (perhaps 9-5) have to beg graciously for a day off etc ? or do you just come and go as you wish,

what sort of amateur post is this?

[Andyw]

Actually i have the joy of a 3 hour commute each way every day

Don't mistake Plan B and Plan C for my main income stream

Depressing ! with a capital D