Reply to: Better anywhere else

[Mailman]

No I am advocating an all inclusive price (if they want to do a tax breakdown that's their choice). paying 22.14 for something advertised as 19.99 is silly, just stick 22.14 on it ffs!

Thats sorta like right up there with paying £35 for an airfare advertised at 99p

Mailman

[sunnysan]

Well

Where I work one permy has come over from Chicago to live here. Reckons he got +/- £10K payrise but is starting to think that he would STILL be better off in Chicago, and have more disposable income.

As some people have said here, it appears to be nearly a 1:1 conversion on many consumer goods so what costs $1 there costs a quid here

Except rent of course where he reckons that he was renting a 2 bed loft conversion in downtown Chicago in a good area for $800 / month.

Try find anywhere decent in London inside zone 4 for £400

[Bagpuss]

What you've left out is the personal allowances. When I worked out in Chicago, about 12 years ago, my "head of household" allowance was IIRC about $10,000, plus I got $5000 allowance for each dependant adult (wifey), and a further allowance for each child , my total tax allowance was about $18000 - 20000 - about half my salary at the time. In addition, there were all sorts of "per diem" and rent allowances that you could claim for up to 2 years after you "moved to find work", plus allowances for interest payments on mortgages (they had just stopped allowing you to claim back credit card interest when we got there). I initially went out to work on contract for Apple in California, before the move to permiedom in Chicago, and, by claiming all the allowances, I was legally taking home about 90% of what I was paid.

On the down side, you can end up paying Federal, State AND Local income tax (and other deductions - depending on the state/ county).

And $1 does pretty much buy what £1 does in this country (or did when I was there).

Why did you leave?

[hattra]

You don't go to buy a pair of jeans here at £x then have to pay whatever on top. Why dont they include it in the price?

re 7.5 % tax, I really can't belive that, unless it's a fiddle. According to the IRS the rate bands are: 15, 25, 28,33 and 35 plus a fixed amount


If taxable income is over-- But not over-- The tax is:
$0 $7,550 10% of the amount over $0
$7,550 $30,650 $755 plus 15% of the amount over 7,550
$30,650 $74,200 $4,220.00 plus 25% of the amount over 30,650
$74,200 $154,800 $15,107.50 plus 28% of the amount over 74,200
$154,800 $336,550 $37,675.50 plus 33% of the amount over 154,800
$336,550 no limit $97,653.00 plus 35% of the amount over 336,550

What you've left out is the personal allowances. When I worked out in Chicago, about 12 years ago, my "head of household" allowance was IIRC about $10,000, plus I got $5000 allowance for each dependant adult (wifey), and a further allowance for each child , my total tax allowance was about $18000 - 20000 - about half my salary at the time. In addition, there were all sorts of "per diem" and rent allowances that you could claim for up to 2 years after you "moved to find work", plus allowances for interest payments on mortgages (they had just stopped allowing you to claim back credit card interest when we got there). I initially went out to work on contract for Apple in California, before the move to permiedom in Chicago, and, by claiming all the allowances, I was legally taking home about 90% of what I was paid.

On the down side, you can end up paying Federal, State AND Local income tax (and other deductions - depending on the state/ county).

And $1 does pretty much buy what £1 does in this country (or did when I was there).

[Bagpuss]

Because it's nothing to do with the retailer, that's why. You are advocating the sort of system we have where the hard of thinking have no conception of what taxes they are paying.

No I am advocating an all inclusive price (if they want to do a tax breakdown that's their choice). paying 22.14 for something advertised as 19.99 is silly, just stick 22.14 on it ffs!

[Cowboy Bob]

Remember, if the accident isn't your fault then the debt falls on the person whose fault it is, not you.

Only if you can afford the lawyer to take the case to court to prove it wasn't your fault...

[AtW]

Vows.

(_o_)

Still, better than being dead.

And if it was more like this: (_O_) ?

[Emperor Dalek]

You end up in prison for the crime of being kept alive.

No, you end up in prison for not repaying a debt. This should teach people to be more careful. Remember, if the accident isn't your fault then the debt falls on the person whose fault it is, not you.

[Emperor Dalek]

They put you in jail for non-payment where you will have to make new marriage vowls (sp?) to a guy named Rock.

Vows.

(_o_)

Still, better than being dead.

Mind you, there was that case a couple of weeks ago of the guy who needed a heart bypass op but was told he'd be dead by the time he got to the top of the NHS waiting list so he told them he'd pay privately and gave them a cheque. They operated next day and the cheque bounced a couple of days after that. Now that's good thinking and I'm sure he will come to arrangement through the courts to repay the debt at 50p per week.

[Cowboy Bob]

I don't know, Bob, do they re-injure you and put you back at the side of the road to die?

You end up in prison for the crime of being kept alive.

[AtW]

I don't know, Bob, do they re-injure you and put you back at the side of the road to die?

They put you in jail for non-payment where you will have to make new marriage vowls (sp?) to a guy named Rock.

[Emperor Dalek]

But what happens if you can't pay the bill?

I don't know, Bob, do they re-injure you and put you back at the side of the road to die?

[AtW]

But what happens if you can't pay the bill?

You wish you were dead...

[Cowboy Bob]

Better to be alive and have a large bill than dead and debt free.

But what happens if you can't pay the bill?

[Emperor Dalek]

Yes, and when you're discharged, they'll present you with a rather large bill.

Better to be alive and have a large bill than dead and debt free.