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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by kal View Post
    Also technical skills and sales know how go hand in hand if you're a contractor, last time I looked brain surgery and rocket science were not a common skillset among either of those professions, so your response makes little or no sense (and yes still makes you look like a fool).
    If you really believe "technical skills and sales know how go hand in hand if you're a contractor" then you are living the dream!

    You only have to read these pages to see how incorrect your premise is as a general description of contractor attributes.

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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by kal View Post
    If you're going to try and score a cheap shot at least try and make sure your response makes grammatical sense, then at least you wont come across as a fool.
    Please feel free to correct my grammar. I 'wont' (won't) hesitate to help you even after I was deeply wounded that you saw my comment as a 'cheap shot'.

    BTW 'try and make' is probably better expressed as try to make.

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  • kal
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    Originally posted by Taita View Post
    So much for your powers of discernment.

    Is brain surgeon therefore should have no difficulty in launching a mission to Mars?

    Try paying attention when you speak....you will miss less and learn more.
    Also technical skills and sales know how go hand in hand if you're a contractor, last time I looked brain surgery and rocket science were not a common skillset among either of those professions, so your response makes little or no sense (and yes still makes you look like a fool).

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  • kal
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    Originally posted by Taita View Post
    So much for your powers of discernment.

    Is brain surgeon therefore should have no difficulty in launching a mission to Mars?

    Try paying attention when you speak....you will miss less and learn more.
    If you're going to try and score a cheap shot at least try and make sure your response makes grammatical sense, then at least you wont come across as a fool.

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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by kal View Post
    I don't class sales skills as any different to technical ones, a failing in one normally indicates a deficiency in another.
    So much for your powers of discernment.

    Is brain surgeon therefore should have no difficulty in launching a mission to Mars?

    Try paying attention when you speak....you will miss less and learn more.

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  • kal
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    Originally posted by NickNick View Post
    And I would add to that. The rate a contractor gets is an indication of his sales skills. Surely repeat business is an indication of thier competence.
    I don't class sales skills as any different to technical ones, a failing in one normally indicates a deficiency in another.

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  • dty
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    Originally posted by NickNick View Post
    And I would add to that. The rate a contractor gets is an indication of his sales skills. Surely repeat business is an indication of thier competence.
    Only if they keep selling to the same customer.

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  • NickNick
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    Originally posted by Taita View Post
    The rate a contractor asks for should never be taken as an indication of his competence except if you are a particularly incompetent agent.........
    And I would add to that. The rate a contractor gets is an indication of his sales skills. Surely repeat business is an indication of thier competence.

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  • CoolCat
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    and sometimes asking for too much money is just a tactful way of saying you don't want that particular role

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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by kal View Post
    I class a competent contractor as one that not only knows how to get the job done but also what his skills are worth in the current job market the fact that you don't speaks volumes...
    What about those who don't know how to get the job done but know what the client is paying others in similar positions?

    As one who knows his worth, you must have sat next to a few of those, strongly biting your tongue, whilst you have been carving out your reputation for competence?

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  • kal
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    Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
    rates vary wildly, rarely relate to how difficult the role is, shortage or not of skills, and so on

    plenty of good folk work for low rates from time to time to keep ticking over

    same as the old tulip from agents about gaps in CV's, plenty of good folk take time off on purpose between jobs and are well able to jump back in when they decide

    were your clients happy? did they offer you more work (even if you turned them down), did the project achieve its goals? far better indicators
    Especially bobs...

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  • CoolCat
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    Originally posted by kal View Post
    I class a competent contractor as one that not only knows how to get the job done but also what his skills are worth in the current job market the fact that you don't speaks volumes...
    rates vary wildly, rarely relate to how difficult the role is, shortage or not of skills, and so on

    plenty of good folk work for low rates from time to time to keep ticking over

    same as the old tulip from agents about gaps in CV's, plenty of good folk take time off on purpose between jobs and are well able to jump back in when they decide

    were your clients happy? did they offer you more work (even if you turned them down), did the project achieve its goals? far better indicators

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  • kal
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    Originally posted by northernladuk View Post


    I will let someone else explain.
    Because you can't?

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  • kal
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    Originally posted by Taita View Post
    The rate a contractor asks for should never be taken as an indication of his competence except if you are a particularly incompetent agent.........
    I class a competent contractor as one that not only knows how to get the job done but also what his skills are worth in the current job market the fact that you don't speaks volumes...

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  • Taita
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    Originally posted by kal View Post
    Your inference is that the rate a contractor charges is no indication of his competence, are you an agent in disguise...
    The rate a contractor asks for should never be taken as an indication of his competence except if you are a particularly incompetent agent.........

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