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Maybe there are just too many BAs, PM and architects about. This must be the common stuff that the agencies can fill at a moments notice. They alwys say that they are getting hundreds of applicants per requirement.
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Originally posted by MyUserName View PostI have never had an issue. Just told them that the contract had failed review and I could not sign it unless it was amended.
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Originally posted by TransitTrucker View PostInteresting answers intimating that there is still some give and take. I had an offer withdrawn by the client when I challenged the agency's contract indicating collusion (if the agency were truthful about the withdrawal). I have also had several occasions recently when it came down to take it or leave it (it is a buyer's market you know). /* I am not agency bashing here. It is the time of goodwill. */
Thanks for your experiences. Much appreciated.
TT
The role I do accounts for less than 1% of the adverts on job boards according to ITjobswatch. Its an unadvertised market and not one that is easy to recruit for.
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Interesting answers intimating that there is still some give and take. I had an offer withdrawn by the client when I challenged the agency's contract indicating collusion (if the agency were truthful about the withdrawal). I have also had several occasions recently when it came down to take it or leave it (it is a buyer's market you know). /* I am not agency bashing here. It is the time of goodwill. */
Thanks for your experiences. Much appreciated.
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Originally posted by MyUserName View PostI have never had an issue. Just told them that the contract had failed review and I could not sign it unless it was amended.
Most recent agent has a policy of not changing contracts for IR35 positioning.
I say my IR35 review failed, and I am about to walk away.
Agency asks what I'd like changing, and voila, amended contract.
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Originally posted by TransitTrucker View PostI always thought of a contract as a two way street.
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I have never had an issue. Just told them that the contract had failed review and I could not sign it unless it was amended.
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Originally posted by TransitTrucker View PostHi,
Anyone been able to use their own contract wording as opposed to the agency's?
Been noticing that agencies are far less willing to change the wording on their contracts even when they are so badly drafted that the agent's lawyers cannot explain what some clauses are supposed to mean.
I always thought of a contract as a two way street.
TT
Agencies are lazy and penny-pinching. They paid for a contract template to be created for them (probably years ago) and they want to use that forevermore, as it's already been agreed by their legal team.
If you present them with a contract then they have to go to the effort and expense of having it legally reviewed. Their first preference is that you don't have their version reviewed and just sign it. Their second preference is that if anyone is going to pay for a legal review then it is you, not them.
EDIT: The above refers to complete contracts. For individual clauses, I have managed to have some changed, but it can be hard work.
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Use B&C or a solicitor if you want the agency to amend wording.
I've had no problems getting dodgy wording amended doing this.
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Using the contractor's standard contract.
Hi,
Anyone been able to use their own contract wording as opposed to the agency's?
Been noticing that agencies are far less willing to change the wording on their contracts even when they are so badly drafted that the agent's lawyers cannot explain what some clauses are supposed to mean.
I always thought of a contract as a two way street.
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