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 Oh yes, they try all sorts of tulip. With some people they get away with it too....
 
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 That is technically correct but in practice it is still common for some unscrupulous agencies to try and pull the "we pay when we get paid" trick...
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 Sounds like the agent is a bit of a plonker.Originally posted by Murder1 View PostAll sorted now anyway, and the agent has been slapped for being unprofessional by the client.....invoice away!!! 
 
 Did you opt out of the agency regulations? If you didn't then they can't link getting paid by the client with paying you - they have to pay up on schedule.
 
 I would have never allowed a term like that in the contract anyway - what does the agency take their cut for if not to factor the payments for you...
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 Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post 
 
 Is that the exact contract wording? Does it mean that you will be paid in 40 days or when agent gets paid - whichever is sooner?
 It's not the exact wording I was trying to paraphrase - essentially it means that if I submit invoice2 for 21 days and the agent hasn't been paid by the client for the previous 21 day invoice (invoice1) then they won't pay invoice2 as it would put them over 40 days paid for which they've received no payment.
 
 All sorted now anyway, and the agent has been slapped for being unprofessional by the client.....invoice away!!!  
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 It's not very professional of them, and no I've never been asked to raise payment issues with a ClientCo. Apart from anything else, it's generally not the people I'm working directly with that have anything to do with invoicing. But even if it was, I wouldn't act as a debt collector for somebody else's debts or a messenger for the agency. It's not what I'm there to do. The day I send a spec to an agent and get them to send me a technical solution back, that's the day they can ask me to do their job for them. Most of the agencies I've worked with over the years wouldn't dream of taking the pee by asking me to raise the issue of their invoices not having been paid with their client. And I wouldn't have stuck around for long if they had.Originally posted by Murder1 View PostHas anyone ever had a request from an Agent to chase the client with regards to paying an Agent invoice before they will make payment on a contractors invoice?
 
 If so has anyone actually raised the matter with the client? It just appears totally unprofessional to me that the agent uses the contractor to chase down the payment. 
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 Sigh!!!!! you supply your services to the agency they supply you to the client your contract is with the agency and their contract is with the client, what do you need an agent for if you can go and discuss payment terms directly, it the agents problem not yours
 
 Its the same as when people on here say they negotiate rates rises with the client, THE CONTRACT IS WITH THE AGENT!!!!
 
 I am with you its not only un-professional but its f**k all to do with you
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 Sorry, i can't help myself sometimesOriginally posted by Murder1 View PostThanks for that but I was really looking to see if others had received the request, and if so had they spoken to the client, I've already settled on waiting. but I was really looking to see if others had received the request, and if so had they spoken to the client, I've already settled on waiting. 
 
 It does sound like a tulipe situation to be in though. I thought one of the main advantages of an agent (for the contractor) was to be paid before the client decides when they are going to pay.
 
 Sounds like this agent wants to have his cake and eat it.
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 Originally posted by Murder1 View PostThe contract does stipulate a 40 day level won't be broken until payment from the client is received by the agent - so there is something there but despite this I'm still reluctant to raise it with the client. 
 
 Is that the exact contract wording? Does it mean that you will be paid in 40 days or when agent gets paid - whichever is sooner?
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 Thanks for thatOriginally posted by kingcook View PostYour 2 options are:
 
 1) Chase the client on behalf of the agent, to allow yourself to be paid quicker
 
 2) Wait but I was really looking to see if others had received the request, and if so had they spoken to the client, I've already settled on waiting. but I was really looking to see if others had received the request, and if so had they spoken to the client, I've already settled on waiting.
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 Your 2 options are:Originally posted by Murder1 View PostThe contract does stipulate a 40 day level won't be broken until payment from the client is received by the agent - so there is something there but despite this I'm still reluctant to raise it with the client.
 
 1) Chase the client on behalf of the agent, to allow yourself to be paid quicker
 
 2) Wait
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 The contract does stipulate a 40 day level won't be broken until payment from the client is received by the agent - so there is something there but despite this I'm still reluctant to raise it with the client.
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 An agent of a previous gig did once mention that the client were very slow at paying, he said they were months behind, but it wasn't my problem. I'd say it's not your problem in this instance either.Originally posted by Murder1 View PostHas anyone ever had a request from an Agent to chase the client with regards to paying an Agent invoice before they will make payment on a contractors invoice?
 
 If so has anyone actually raised the matter with the client? It just appears totally unprofessional to me that the agent uses the contractor to chase down the payment. 
 
 Check your contract to see if there are any clauses which state that you don't get paid until agency get paid.
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 Chasing payment on behalf of the agentHas anyone ever had a request from an Agent to chase the client with regards to paying an Agent invoice before they will make payment on a contractors invoice?
 
 If so has anyone actually raised the matter with the client? It just appears totally unprofessional to me that the agent uses the contractor to chase down the payment. Tags: None Tags: None
 
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