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Originally posted by The Spartan View PostI did a twelve hour day yesterday as we were doing a release so I'm kind of out of goodwill at the moment, but as I'm on a day rate I'm not sure where it leaves me it's meant to be a 37.5 hr week but I can't say I've worked a week less than 42 hrs.
Are hourly contracts rare?
12 hour day. Hmmm. Wouldnt do that too often unless they dont mind reciprocating now and then with some short days when it suited me.
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I did a twelve hour day yesterday as we were doing a release so I'm kind of out of goodwill at the moment, but as I'm on a day rate I'm not sure where it leaves me it's meant to be a 37.5 hr week but I can't say I've worked a week less than 42 hrs.
Are hourly contracts rare?
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Originally posted by the_rangdo View PostDidn't need to do weekends before, now the overall project is slipping the tasks are piling up.
The permies and Base3 chappies have been instructed to put extra hours in. A couple of the contractors have buckled under pressure and done the goodwill thing, the rest of us make sure we're compensated
They were also asking if we'd go in on Boxing Day as the testers don't celebrate Xmas so they're scared defects will mount up, and would we mind not taking Xmas week off. If they'd been a bit mature and flexible about things I'd consider it, as it is I finish next Friday until the New Year.
If someone gives me notice, sorts out that I'll get paid, doesnt act like a twat when I want to leave early one day, then I'll do my best to accomodate.
However, when they whinge that I left at 4pm (despite working till 7pm the previous 4 nights) or tells me its urgent that I'm available for Saturday work at 5-15pm on a Friday, then dont bother to get it authorised then I get pissed off!
Even more so when they make out I'm being unflexible because I say no because I've got personal commitments now (wife's a nurse and works weekend shifts sometimes so I've got the kids to look after). Even though I've told them this 10 times before about how it works and even if shes working if they give me notice I might be able to sort out a babysitter (5-15pm Friday no chance!)
Current client isnt too bad but does display some of these tendencies....
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Originally posted by BolshieBastard View PostLOL! This just proves what mongs some permie managers \ HR types are. They'd rather you work less hours, by the book etc and pay instead of some give and take where you'd deliver more and probably cheaper (if you didnt previously bill for weekends!).
The permies and Base3 chappies have been instructed to put extra hours in. A couple of the contractors have buckled under pressure and done the goodwill thing, the rest of us make sure we're compensated
They were also asking if we'd go in on Boxing Day as the testers don't celebrate Xmas so they're scared defects will mount up, and would we mind not taking Xmas week off. If they'd been a bit mature and flexible about things I'd consider it, as it is I finish next Friday until the New Year.
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Originally posted by the_rangdo View Post+1
Current client I used to stack up enough hours to finish early (13:00) on a Friday and with an extra 2-3 hours a week in hand (goodwill, whatever)
Then they moaned that permies can't finish before 4, have to have an hour for lunch, blah blah.
So I work my 7 hours/day as per contract (generally 7:30-15:30 so it's still before 4) with very little extra 'goodwill' and weekends are invoiced (and paid)
Hasn't stopped me getting multiple extensions
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Originally posted by Notascooby View PostI disagree - it's usually a lot easier to get the permie to do the extra hours - dangle the performance rating carrot in their face.
In June I billed 31 days - the agent did question how as there was only 30 days in the month.
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I suppose what sector it's in as when I was in the public sector they more or less worked their hours and were gone.
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I disagree - it's usually a lot easier to get the permie to do the extra hours - dangle the performance rating carrot in their face.
In June I billed 31 days - the agent did question how as there was only 30 days in the month.
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Originally posted by psychocandy View PostTotally agree with you. But how many clients think contractors are just 'different' permies? Most I reckon. i.e. If I hassle you, it'll get done for free.
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Originally posted by psychocandy View PostTotally agree with you. But how many clients think contractors are just 'different' permies? Most I reckon. i.e. If I hassle you, it'll get done for free.
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Originally posted by billybiro View PostFine, then they shouldn't get extra days/hours.
I walk into a car showroom to purchase a £50k vehicle, listen to the salesman's patter then agree to buy the £50k car, for the full price of £50k.
Oh, but then I proceed to explain to the salesman that my "budget" is only £45k, but that I'd like him to still give me the car, and cover the £5k deficit himself, as a gesture of goodwill.
Guess how many times I've driven away with the car?
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Originally posted by psychocandy View PostThing is clients have a budget and sometimes they aint willing to pay for extra days/hours.
I walk into a car showroom to purchase a £50k vehicle, listen to the salesman's patter then agree to buy the £50k car, for the full price of £50k.
Oh, but then I proceed to explain to the salesman that my "budget" is only £45k, but that I'd like him to still give me the car, and cover the £5k deficit himself, as a gesture of goodwill.
Guess how many times I've driven away with the car?
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostIs it for a week around go live or for the next 6 months?
When you know this you have a better idea of what is being asked of you and what your options are..
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Originally posted by sqlash View PostI got some spiel from him about expecting a certain amount of goodwill and team spirit.
I'd be interested to know how others have handled these kinds of situations?
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