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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    Ok a conscience then?

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  • SimonMac
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Ok a conscience then?

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  • pmeswani
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    They developed morals?
    I think it goes beyond that. They developed a thick skin towards DA's.

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  • Sysman
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    One of my clients poached my account manager for his account (yes offering high base and "security") she immediately changed and became incredibly bossy. now she is under pressure to reduce agency fees for the client and has resorted to "skimming". We send in 8 CVs she says that she already has 4 them "as contacts" (in otherwords they appeared on Linkedin or on their database as a name in the distant past. So they agree to interview 4 through us (as a sop) and say they are going direct to what are effectively the best four. One of the four had never even heard of the client and the other three said that they had not approached them directly or indirectly.

    and all because she cannot resource without dodgy's leadership and guidance
    Take consolation in the thought that everyone at her new place will end up hating her.

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  • SueEllen
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    Originally posted by Wanderer View Post


    That's what I was thinking. Perhaps they are tired of the dirty business of ripping off clients and contractors alike, it's not a nice way to make a living.
    Internal recruiters and Human Remains don't have any morals anyway.

    The only reason to work directly for a client is because you want to do less work and they have a nice maternity package. Otherwise you must simply be tulip at the job.

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  • DodgyAgent
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    They developed morals?

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  • JoJoGabor
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    Internal recruiters are usually failed recruitment agents. I did a permie stint for a financial co withh one such lady. She was so stuck up her own Harris, I felt like walking out of the interview. Trying her hardest to knock my requested salary down at the first interview and full of the usual story about how amazing the company was. Turned out she was blatantly lying about the company, I nearly made a formal complaint about her. Full of all the agency tricks, but then forgot she had to deal with these people on an ongoing business, so she just blanked people in the office once ey had started

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  • Wanderer
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    Originally posted by SimonMac View Post
    They developed morals?


    That's what I was thinking. Perhaps they are tired of the dirty business of ripping off clients and contractors alike, it's not a nice way to make a living.

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  • SimonMac
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Why would anyone in the agency business who was any good want to go and work for an end client. The agency business is entrepreneurial, highly competitive and highly rewarding _assuming you are good at it. So to go and work for a "city institution" where promotion prospects are poor, commissions low, earning are less, dealing with one client must mean "safety". whoever heard of a CEO or a board director of a city institution coming up through the recruitment department. yet good recruiters are commercially astute, great communicators, ambitious, ruthless.

    So it is fair to say that "internal recruiters" are the bog end of the recruiter market.
    They developed morals?

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  • thunderlizard
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    You can take the girl out of the agency...

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  • DodgyAgent
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    One of my clients poached my account manager for his account (yes offering high base and "security") she immediately changed and became incredibly bossy. now she is under pressure to reduce agency fees for the client and has resorted to "skimming". We send in 8 CVs she says that she already has 4 them "as contacts" (in otherwords they appeared on Linkedin or on their database as a name in the distant past. So they agree to interview 4 through us (as a sop) and say they are going direct to what are effectively the best four. One of the four had never even heard of the client and the other three said that they had not approached them directly or indirectly.

    and all because she cannot resource without dodgy's leadership and guidance

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Why would anyone in the agency business who was any good want to go and work for an end client. The agency business is entrepreneurial, highly competitive and highly rewarding _assuming you are good at it. So to go and work for a "city institution" where promotion prospects are poor, commissions low, earning are less, dealing with one client must mean "safety". whoever heard of a CEO or a board director of a city institution coming up through the recruitment department. yet good recruiters are commercially astute, great communicators, ambitious, ruthless.

    So it is fair to say that "internal recruiters" are the bog end of the recruiter market.
    It's almost as if they have no self-respect.

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  • hyperD
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    Originally posted by TestMangler View Post
    No need to call security. He's entitled to his opinion

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  • TestMangler
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    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Security.

    No need to call security. He's entitled to his opinion

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  • MarillionFan
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    Security.

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