Contractors taking outsourced projects.

What's a spring roll ?

Clue : It may be present at this thread.

1st correct answer, gets one FTV.

if you ain't got the goods go perm (flame bait)

Who cares if someone is on a FTV, if you can't compete go perm (if you can).

I have lost count of the 'contractors' who can't do the work they have taken the contract for.

If someone is on a FTV they come under different rules and basically it's because the company can't find a uk perm to fill the post.

You may notice we claim that ir35 is unfair because of the "risk" we have but we are taking jobs just because companies can't find a perm, not because they want a flexible work force (the main reason we started was after all, to fill short term holes) we have been lucky over the last few years that's all,

I for one will be glad when the bad contractors out there go perm, it will just reduce the 'fodder' level and mean the good name of contractors is restored.

if your competing against FTV's your going for the wrong contract.

(please note the term contract and not job)

BTW , Anyone in the EAA can startup a Ltd company easier than getting a FTV.

All the pre-sales stuff I've done involved building demo systems (financial software sales) using customer models.

Learning the application can generally be done on an admin course - BUT with pre-sales I was party to really sensitive information and corporate contacts, so they really like you to be permie (as I was ten years ago doing this stuff).

That was a six month sales cycle +£500k deals in general.

With regard to the presales service - would it really be possible to do credible pre-sales without a very intimate knowledge of the product? Wouldn't learning about the product take out a lot of time?

I'm not saying it couldn't be done, I could conceivably find such a service useful, but I don't know how it could work.

"Also, tell him to stay put in India!"


'cos the work will come to him!!!!

Is anyone interested in setting up a pre-sales and implement service? There must be a lot of ssecond-tier software providers who lose business because they acnnot be everywhere at once. Even more who do not want to hire permanent people that are not fully used but want continuity. The main problem is identifying the market, but maybe a group of contractors would allow advertising or mailshots without going broke.

FTV Bad, IR35 Good?

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Re: What are FTV's

In essence and in fact, FTV workers are being deliberately, cynically and illegally used to replace contractors in this country.

Re: What are FTV's

Fast Track Visa

A mechanism (in theory) to allow people from outside the EU with skills in which the UK has a shortage to get a work permit and visa in double quick time.

In reallity a way for offshore firms to flood the uk with low paid workers

What are FTV's

I new to this forum, well a couple of months.

What does FTV mean. Thanks Lads

Hi all...

Well, the thread was not meant to distrub you all.. If this was what reflected from message sorry about that.

Plus. Your comments are being conveyed to him.

Thank You.
khsher

I think this was posted to wind us up... Just ignore it.

ajh

You know, I wish some people would read the boards before asking questions.

Asking a Q like that would probably deserve a good kicking, especially in our economic climate. How would they like it if we went over there and took all their work?

Do India have an FTV system? I hear you can buy all the software, books and whatever over there dead cheap, and the daily commute on the train is cheap (compared to £400 for a 1 month ticket from Swindon to London) and the trains have air conditioning (but watch out for tunnels...)

Well, tell him the IT industry in the UK is suffering due to, amongst other things, Indian IT workers coming over to the UK and taking our jobs and from companies in the UK outsourcing work to Indian companies.

Also, tell him to stay put in India!

Hi.

I am wondering are there any contractors who look out for outsourced work project wise or project module wise.

I have a friend in India software development company looking for outsourced project work from UK.

Thanks in Advance.
Khsher.