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  • Wanderer
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    Originally posted by frankjj View Post
    I was suprised to discover that agent takes a continuous cut on the daily rate of a developer.
    Yep, that's the way it works. Client pays the agency, agency takes a cut, agency pays the contractor. 12% is pretty much par, less than that if they are a preferred supplier, more if they are lucky.

    At least you know how much they are getting and that you aren't getting ripped off by an agency taking a massive cut.

    Originally posted by frankjj View Post
    More than being a contract now I am thinking of becoming a recruiter.


    I wouldn't do that job for love or money. Cold calling all day, dealing with arsey contractors etc. Agents are a necessary evil in my book, keep a close eye on them, make sure they are open about their percentage and you will be OK.

    Most clients won't do without them.

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  • Stan.goodvibes
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    Originally posted by frankjj View Post
    More than being a contract now I am thinking of becoming a recruiter.
    Sorry, you have to be a chav

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  • frankjj
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    just to clear out things.

    I was suprised to discover that agent takes a continuous cut on the daily rate of a developer.
    It is odd to me that a skilled professional feeds the ass of some middle man that barely knows how to use the microwave and doesn't provide any value. Sounds illegal.

    More than being a contract now I am thinking of becoming a recruiter.

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  • Not So Wise
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    Why do people start contracting without doing even the most basic research?

    Yes all agents take an ongoing fee/margin from clients for contractors as they (should) provide ongoing factoring and payment services. And yes 12% is pretty much an average rate, some charge less, some charge a lot more

    The one off fee are for permanent placements and no you should never have to pay an agent for anything, contracting or permanent, it's the client/employer who pays
    Last edited by Not So Wise; 4 March 2010, 14:25.

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  • Hex
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    Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
    For a contract, they are the ones that are paying you - from the money that they receive from the client (or are due from the client) they give you a certain percentage. That may or may not be 12% - some will be higher, some will be lower.
    Not necessarily. Most IBs have a fixed percentage agreed with the PSL Agencies. The IB dictate what the agency cut is and the IB also agree the contractors rate. I would guess some other big companies may work this way too with agencies on their PSL.

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Originally posted by frankjj View Post
    I am new to contracting and just discovered that agent takes a cut on upon placement of 12% of the rate. Quite surprising to hear this! I thought they just get a fee.
    For a contract, they are the ones that are paying you - from the money that they receive from the client (or are due from the client) they give you a certain percentage. That may or may not be 12% - some will be higher, some will be lower.

    Originally posted by frankjj View Post
    Is it the same for developers in finance?
    Probably.

    Originally posted by frankjj View Post
    How about permanent positions, here agents get a fee from employeer right? I mean I don't have to pay him?
    For a permanent position, once you are employed, you have no contractual arrangement with the agency, so it would be impossible for them to take a monthly fee from your salary. I believe that the typical arrangement between agency and employer would be an up-front percentage of first year's salary, but there may well be other arrangements available.

    Why would you care?

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  • frankjj
    started a topic Developer in finance and Agency cut?

    Developer in finance and Agency cut?

    Hi all,

    I am new to contracting and just discovered that agent takes a cut on upon placement of 12% of the rate. Quite surprising to hear this! I thought they just get a fee.

    Is it the same for developers in finance?

    How about permanent positions, here agents get a fee from employeer right? I mean I don't have to pay him?


    Thanks,

    jj

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