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Originally posted by gingerjedi View PostIt’s a PITA gathering all that info, I wish I'd photocopied my application before sending it off.
As you said gathering the info would be far from straight forwards in many cases.
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I have been SC'ed twice by MI5 and the DVA and they both took 3 months. My DV took just over 10 months from sending the forms to the clearance actually coming thorough. My application was pretty straight forward in all cases (British, no family, convictions, financial problems, deviancy etc etc). I have had colleagues with circumstances (eg. Foreign nationals, married to foreign nationals etc) who have had to wait up to 18 months for their SC clearance to come through. Even if you have never been to Canada etc, the DVA or whichever agency is doing your clearance will still need to contact each countries government that you are affiliated to to confirm the status of yourself and your family etc. financial, criminal etc etc etc. It's not just the slow UK government involved in your case but the slow Swiss and Canadians too. Good Luck.
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Originally posted by Peoplesoft bloke View Post
Their definition of "processed" is presumably the "process" where when you ring up after 4 weeks they claim they have lost the forms and make you fill 'em all in again.
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Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View PostDVA says 97% of SC applications processed within 30 days according to their news release.
a)Truthfull
b) Full of half-truths, lies, spin and bollocks
Their definition of "processed" is presumably the "process" where when you ring up after 4 weeks they claim they have lost the forms and make you fill 'em all in again.
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Originally posted by The Lone Gunman View PostDVA says 97% of SC applications processed within 30 days according to their news release.
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DVA says 97% of SC applications processed within 30 days according to their news release.
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Originally posted by swamp View PostYour client is being totally unreasonable.
Originally posted by swamp View PostSC clearance can typically take up to six months even if you are British!
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Your client is being totally unreasonable.
There is no way they can expect your clearance to come through in three months. The fact you're Canadian and your mother is Swiss (or whatever) is neither here nor there. SC clearance can typically take up to six months even if you are British!
Tell your client your SC is not late, and you expect to be cleared in the next couple of months as should be expected for any individual. Tell them they can renew your contract and, if they are concerned, include a one week symmetrical notice clause which they can enact if your clearance should fail.
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Originally posted by IanRoberts View Post........ due to the fact my mother is Swiss and I am dual nationality (Canadian, although I've never worked or even lived there) I'm still awaiting my clearance. ....
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It all depends on how busy the DVA are, 8-12 weeks for an SC to come through is far from unusual, it can take longer. Since you have a relatively unusual nationality and a Swiss mother it's probably complicated matters and so it will take even longer. From your post it looks like your application has only been in for 7ish weeks.
Just consider yourself lucky the role doesn't require DV clearance as this spring 9+ months was being quoted as a typical time for it to come through the system.
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This is nothing to do with employment rights. As for discrimination, there's a world of difference between that and ensuring only people of the right nationality have access to nationally sensitive information.
Go and find a non cleared role if this is not to your liking...
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They seem to have done everything correctly. They are not supposed to advertise with a requirement for SC prior to start. They have taken you on without and are probably putting up with any extra security issues this brings. If they need you to have real access to SC covered work then they may not be willing to keep paying your rate while you are not doing the work they require.
Talk to them. Find out what the issues are with SC. If you really want to stay and you are sure it will come through you may find a compromise. Possibly offer to work on something else at a lower rate till it comes through (separate contract though).
Call the Defence Vetting Agency help desk and see if there are any problems. They are pretty helpful.
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Security Clearance Discrimination
Hi ! I wonder if any of you out there can give me an answer on this. I'm coming towards the end of a three month contract. I was taken on without SC Clearance but sent off all the application forms a few days into the contract. I'm now about a month away from the end of my contract and due to the fact my mother is Swiss and I am dual nationality (Canadian, although I've never worked or even lived there) I'm still awaiting my clearance. I've been told they are more than happy with my work and happy to extend my contract another 3 months, however this is dependant on my clearance arriving. I have this in an email. Is this legal ? I realise contractors don't have too many employment rights but I thought you were not allowed to discriminate against someone just because they don't have security clearance ?Tags: None
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