Reply to: Been offered a Permie post.....

[wantacontract]

hahaha..

see hes started another thread.....

wilmslow, just take the permie role, its obvious you really want it....

if its no good, then resign and go back to contracting.....

[Sausage Surprise]

so wilmslow, I am in the same boat as you...

what are you going to do??

did you do much haggling at all for the salary?

Don't encourage him FFS

[wantacontract]

so wilmslow, I am in the same boat as you...

what are you going to do??

did you do much haggling at all for the salary?

[DiscoStu]

Well, that crunch time looming again.

The other GOOD agency that covers this area has now sent out a mass email to her database.

This really puts the pressure on me to accept.

I really think that I am overpaid where I am, and most contracts these days for my skillset appear around the £200 to £250 daily mark, which is pro-rata about the £45K on offer.

In negotiation with my current agent to get a 3 month renewal, then move onto permie. The 3 months will give me enough moolah to get myself a car in another year and pay for the hotel that I will need as my mid-week break from the road.

The temptation of a reasonable salary and being able to leave work at 3pm is starting to get the better of me......

Also very keen to see this HUGE project and culture change through to completion, should put me in an EXCELLENT position at the other end.

Recession is looming, rates are dwindling.

Yes, I was serious about the management drop-in timed sessions, all of that is part of the change challenges ahead of me!

I wish you the very best of luck, but please please please MAKE A DECISION!!!

[TheFaQQer]

You won't be able to claim expenses any more, even if on your contract, since the client site will effectively become your permanent place of work.

Not sure what the IR35 implications of this would be, either, so you may need to be VERY careful here.

Best of luck, whatever you choose.

[Wilmslow]

Well, that crunch time looming again.

The other GOOD agency that covers this area has now sent out a mass email to her database.

This really puts the pressure on me to accept.

I really think that I am overpaid where I am, and most contracts these days for my skillset appear around the £200 to £250 daily mark, which is pro-rata about the £45K on offer.

In negotiation with my current agent to get a 3 month renewal, then move onto permie. The 3 months will give me enough moolah to get myself a car in another year and pay for the hotel that I will need as my mid-week break from the road.

The temptation of a reasonable salary and being able to leave work at 3pm is starting to get the better of me......

Also very keen to see this HUGE project and culture change through to completion, should put me in an EXCELLENT position at the other end.

Recession is looming, rates are dwindling.

Yes, I was serious about the management drop-in timed sessions, all of that is part of the change challenges ahead of me!

[SimonD]

Yep true, getting offered a permie job is par for the course when on a long termer. I was offered one the other day because surprise surprise they're trying to cut costs! they want me to stay but want to pay me 50% less. Of course I declined (politely) to keep the door open for future contracts. I'm outta here on 28th.

Just registered because of this thread actually.

I have been a contractor for a long time now, most of my contracts have been what I would call long termers (12+ months), my current role was recently offered to me at a permie rate which was 60% less than I am currently earning, needless to say I politely turned them down. When asked why I let them know that it didn't suit my life style as well as the loss of earnings would essentially mean me not being able to feed my family, pay the mortgage etc.

As has previously been mentioned being offered a permie position once you have been contracting in the company for a while is quite normal, usually politely declining will get you out of it, occasionally they will hire someone cheaper (younger) and less experienced in the hope that they will be able to do the same work that you have done for them but at 50% of the cost.

After 21 months in my current current contract I leave them on Friday but tbh it was about time as I was getting bored.

[barely_pointless]

Agree with pretty much everything Tay said, it is quite normal to be offered a permie role if you are any use at all, typically it's driven by cost and not much else, they just want you at a cheaper rate.

My stock standard response is "lifestyle" "flexibility" and "Family" based, generally I say that we're planning to relocate to [INSERT PLANET, COUNTRY,LOCATION HERE] in the next two years or so.

put's em off quite nicely!

Only one place forced a group of 4 contractors to go permie, which was pretty horrendous, contracts were cancelled early, basically a bullying tactic, all contractors/permies left within 3 months and the client (clown that he was) had to recruit new contractors............ who had no experience!

[lukemg]

have to agree with most posters, many places use the contracts as an extended interview. Has happened to me a couple of times and I have politely declined, contract has been extended afterwards.
I would only consider it if I was offered a higher or better role e.g. boss of the dept etc. This would lessen the blow cash wise and feel like progression for me, would tie in some decent training etc.
Same role, poor location, half the money - not even worth discussing !!!

[ladymuck]

If you mean Charlie Dimmocks then I definitely would not be interested!

[miffy]

I'd lurve to hear about someones puppies!

[ladymuck]

I'm generally happy to stay put if the work is interesting and still presenting a challenge. Once I feel like I'm stagnating then I'm off.

I fell into contracting after taking a year off to do a college course. Needed a job at the end of it and found a decent contract suprisingly local to me (haven't found a local one since then, which sucks!). Haven't looked back since, thoroughly enjoy the different locations, different work, little/no office politics, decent money and the flexibility to take time off as and when I want to for as long as I want to. I'm not much of a people person so it's good to be able to just turn up, do the job and go without having to hear all about auntie Doris' gall stones or someone's puppies.

[SueEllen]

I just hate conforming - it's nothing do with contracting. When I feel settled, it's time to move on. My age has something to do with this?

Nah it's your cynicism. There are only so many permies you can meet who have been made redundant....

[GCR99]

I ahve been offered a permnie job in nearly every place I ahve contracted, its not rare, so dont be to flattered. It will be really flattering when they give you a rate rise and an extension.

Yep true, getting offered a permie job is par for the course when on a long termer. I was offered one the other day because surprise surprise they're trying to cut costs! they want me to stay but want to pay me 50% less. Of course I declined (politely) to keep the door open for future contracts. I'm outta here on 28th.

[youwhut]

Yes, all real contractors aspire to being miserable and unsettled during the third of their lives spent in the office.

I just hate conforming - it's nothing do with contracting. When I feel settled, it's time to move on. My age has something to do with this?